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#101 Sabrejet

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 12:46 PM

All this talk of Euro Clones, lead me to thing of Latin American Clones, not so much the actual manufacture of steel shells or liners (did some countries of South America indeed make clone M1s?) but rather more parts, liner parts in particular, don't thing we seen this so far cropping up if they did have them.

 

Si senor...Argentina!



#102 Welshman

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 12:47 PM

Only Belgian type that had the suspension riveted to the outer shell was the German made Paratrooper helmet worn by the Belgian Parachute regiment in the 70s and 80s...

 

It could well have been a Paratroop helmet, would have been shallower looking to the one Ian posted, like I said, the seller said it was a Belgium helmet.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:04 PM

Interior of Argie M1 clone...Falklands bring-back.

 

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:05 PM

Exterior. Note riveted chinstraps.

 

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:43 PM

Ah yes the Argentine ones, a British Vet bring home, or was it found in a Barn near Stanley :lol: 

 

Do you own this helmet Ian? if so lets see a detailed view of the interior of the liner.



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Posted 16 January 2014 - 05:32 AM

Chinstrap webbing: US-made chinstrap webbing is OG with a white cotton core. It has a different weave from Euro webbing, which does not have a white cotton core and is a different shade of green

 

 

 

Hi Sabrejet, this is not always true. Many anchor-marked chinstraps from the Vietnam era have green core webbing and in some cases a mix of both types.

 

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 05:54 AM

Feel free to add some illustrated examples of what you describe for future reference.



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Posted 16 January 2014 - 07:39 AM

Here are two sets (one set green-cored, one set white-cored, both anchor stamped and removed from helmets) currently on Ebay as an example and lastly one of mine from home

 

http://s63.photobucket.com/user/tomskeroo/media/_57_zps2a5c6210.jpg.html

 

http://s63.photobucket.com/user/tomskeroo/media/_571_zps3b8440c0.jpg.html

 

 

 

 

http://s63.photobucket.com/user/tomskeroo/media/008768x1024_zps5507cd9d.jpg.html


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 08:59 AM

I have a euro clone with some unknown maker mold mark in the crown of the liner, has the letters MIX

 

anybody have any info what country made this liner? it looks just like a US Vietnam War era liner but I think it's a foreign copy.

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#110 Lt. Kelly

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Posted 11 September 2014 - 07:14 AM

The straps on the shell look like the Dutch model. The Dutch however did not produce that kind of liner. They used the webbing with draw string crown till the 80s.



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Posted 02 October 2015 - 05:13 AM

Voila monsieur!  Look familiar? Obviously, its shape follows the contours of the French shell, but its interior is pure M1.


In my opinion the liner is pure french. The first and the second images are from the shell, the last one from the liner of the same manufacturer: HR

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#112 Sabrejet

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Posted 02 October 2015 - 05:19 AM

In my opinion the liner is pure french. The first and the second images are from the shell, the last one from the liner of the same manufacturer: HR

 

Yes...I know that Alberto....I meant that at a glance its interior is just like that of an M1 liner....from which it is copied.



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Posted 02 October 2015 - 05:32 AM

 
Yes...I know that Alberto....I meant that at a glance its interior is just like that of an M1 liner....from which it is copied.


Ah, ok! ☺

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 08:34 AM

Can somebody help me out
I have a m1 whit a woodland cover
Cover date dla 100-81
Liner maker mark snaps stocko
Stamp SH 88

Helmet Shell i only see lot 01/89 U's

I would like to know Anny info you have a bout it

Thank you for your time

#115 Le Garenne 78

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 07:54 AM

I believe to have a M1 clone, but not sure from which country.

 

Any help will be appreciated

 

Thanks

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#116 Le Garenne 78

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 07:55 AM

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 07:55 AM

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 08:18 AM

Any stampings on the rim?



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Posted 07 March 2016 - 08:45 AM

I read "76 A"

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Posted 04 April 2016 - 11:37 AM

Has anyone seen these liners used in anything other than German helmets?

 

Yes, in the swedish m/37 helmet. Only for a short time, as a test helmet.

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Posted 04 April 2016 - 02:16 PM

I read "76 A"

 

Sorry, I missed your post till now. At first I thought it could be Dutch, but that heat number looks like it could be a US pot (possibly used by another country though)?



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Posted 04 April 2016 - 09:42 PM

 

Sorry, I missed your post till now. At first I thought it could be Dutch, but that heat number looks like it could be a US pot (possibly used by another country though)?

 

The 76 A indicates a front seam, fixed bail helmet but this helmet is a swivel, rear seam with a non stainless steel rim. Riveted chin straps aren´t US (or?).

 

 

 



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Posted 23 December 2016 - 07:04 PM

 
The 76 A indicates a front seam, fixed bail helmet but this helmet is a swivel, rear seam with a non stainless steel rim. Riveted chin straps aren´t US (or?).
 
 
 

It's possible one or two numbers did not appear when manufactured. This has happened often. Near the "u" where someone marked appears to be a faint number one.

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 08:15 AM

Just had this one ID'd, Swivel bail at the rear and heat stamped as an Isreali model.  

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 08:17 AM

Heat stamp, 1973 Israeli helmet. The character in the circle stands for Zahal, or the Israeli army.

 

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