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3 hours ago, doughboy said:

Thank you very much McChizzle for the great info and thanks a lot again for the links - also an interesting reference. You really helped me.

 

You are welcome.

 

Here is a better reference to the 56th Quartermaster Rigger Support Team's alignment under the 56th Troop Command: https://ri.ng.mil/Ocean-State-Guardian/Feature-Articles/Article/1740267/i-will-be-sure-always/

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27 minutes ago, McChizzle said:

 

You are welcome.

 

Here is a better reference to the 56th Quartermaster Rigger Support Team's alignment under the 56th Troop Command: https://ri.ng.mil/Ocean-State-Guardian/Feature-Articles/Article/1740267/i-will-be-sure-always/

 

...or lack there of. They now report directly to the Rhode Island Army National Guard. Despite this change, their use of the joint force DUI on their organizational beret flash should continue.

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Could someone help with these three ovals?

 

Are all three 1940’s-1960’s?

 

I think I know but completely sure

 

top,82nd Airborne HQ (stiff twill)

middle, 82nd Airborne (twill)

bottom, Airborne Command (twill, black center)

 

thanks

 

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Found a Beret Flash in the web and wondered what it is - all that I found was a decal description what says " Nato Special Forces" ???? never heard !! Does anyone of you know what this flash is ? I also looked at the page of The Institute of Heraldry but this flash is not listed.Thank you in advance for help.

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6 hours ago, doughboy said:

Found a Beret Flash in the web and wondered what it is - all that I found was a decal description what says " Nato Special Forces" ???? never heard !! Does anyone of you know what this flash is ? I also looked at the page of The Institute of Heraldry but this flash is not listed.Thank you in advance for help.

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I've seen this beret flash on the internet as well and I have not been able to validate its use. The closes thing I can find is a different flash worn by Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe, Special Projects Branch–Army Element (ref: https://tioh.army.mil/Catalog/HeraldryMulti.aspx?CategoryId=4876&grp=2&menu=Uniformed Services).

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36 minutes ago, doughboy said:

First I thought it could be a new Shape flash - but it isn't. Could this be an unofficial one ? or fantasy !!!

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Found this Beret Flash in the web and wondered if someone of you has any info. The flash is descibed as " Special Operations Command East " and it looks like asian ( korean ) made.

Took some research on this but couldn't find anything - either the flash nor the description.

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2 hours ago, doughboy said:

Found this Beret Flash in the web and wondered if someone of you has any info. The flash is descibed as " Special Operations Command East " and it looks like asian ( korean ) made.

Took some research on this but couldn't find anything - either the flash nor the description.

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It may have existed at one time and probably got absorbed into Special Operations Command-Pacific. Some more digging is needed to see if it really existed and for how long.

 

https://www.military-insignia.us/Pages/SpecOpsInsignia/BeretFlashes/Flashes-SOCOM.html

 

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13 minutes ago, e19 said:

 

From the research I have done--which does not mean I am right--the 6th SOSC had two different beret flashes during its short existence, neither of which have the color combination of the one "doughboy" is referencing.

 

6th SOSC Original Beret Flash

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6th SOSC Beret Flash (2nd Version)

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References:

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Recently authorized flash and oval design for the 333rd Quartermaster Det. - USAR

 

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10 hours ago, 468abnarm said:

Recently authorized flash and oval design for the 333rd Quartermaster Det. - USAR

 

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Looks like they are part of the 143rd Sustainment Command (Expeditionary) as a direct reporting unit. They are listed as being stationed at Fort Bragg. I wonder what unit they are supporting at "the home of the Airborne"?

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Hi everyone ,

I would need some help .Does someone of you know what these beret flashes are ? I have really no clue and couldn't find anything on these. Any help would be appreciated.Thank you very much in advance.

 

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20 minutes ago, doughboy said:

Hi everyone ,

I would need some help .Does someone of you know what these beret flashes are ? I have really no clue and couldn't find anything on these. Any help would be appreciated.Thank you very much in advance.

 

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I have no idea. The one on the right is similar to the 525th Military Intelligence Brigade Beret Flash, but not quite; the 525th's uses a lightning bolt to separate the gray and blue sections.  The one on the left has the shape of the flashes used by the US Army Armor School, 194th Armored Brigade's training battalions back in the 1970s.; but this specific one does not show up in the documentation I have and trust.  Maybe these were prototypes or used by state guard units.

     - A good reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_beret_flash

 

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I also mistaken the right one with the 525th MI until I recognized it hasn't a lightning bolt . Well, maybe someone knows what it is. Thank you for the reference - it's indeed a good source.

I looked through that site and now I have another question: was the beret flash of the 103rd MI, 3rd Inf. Div. LRS ever worn or was it a proposed design ?

 

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8 hours ago, doughboy said:

I also mistaken the right one with the 525th MI until I recognized it hasn't a lightning bolt . Well, maybe someone knows what it is. Thank you for the reference - it's indeed a good source.

I looked through that site and now I have another question: was the beret flash of the 103rd MI, 3rd Inf. Div. LRS ever worn or was it a proposed design ?

 

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I don't know, but all of the LRS units of that era had one and since this was the only one I could find for the 103rd, I think it would have been worn. Of course thinking and knowing are different.

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2 hours ago, doughboy said:

Thank you for your opinion. Since most or all of these LRS units have been very small it's really hard to find out anything on them.

 

For the Wikipedia article, I use two or more sources to help confirm older/less known beret flashes (click on each image to visit its file page to see the cited sources). I was able to find a few different sources for the 103rd MI's LRSD and one of those sources has proven to be accurate as to whether a particular flash really existed or not, that source being https://www.military-insignia.us/Pages/SpecOpsForcesInsignia.html#, and for this particular group of flashes https://www.military-insignia.us/Pages/SpecOpsInsignia/BeretFlashes/Flashes-LRS.html.

 

However, the most trusted sources I use do not have the 103rd MI LRSD beret flash listed, so maybe it did not exist after all. Those trusted sources are:

*  "Beret Insignia of the U.S. Army," by William A Hudspeath, published by Richard W Smith, Hendersonville, dated 1987, ASIN B06XD7DSY9

http://www.uniforms-4u.com/c-us-army-flashes-1355.aspx

 

Do you think it was just a prototype?

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I've got the book " Beret Insignia of the US Army " by Hudspeath and this is as you mentioned indeed one of the best sources you can have. Well, I thought it maybe has been a prototype because it isn't listed in this book. Thank you again for your help and all the good links - I really appreciate it. Great 👍

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549th QM CO U.S. Army Japan. A Chief Warrant Officer 3 wears this patch, WO not identified, but he is a Escort Officer at Clark Air Base Philippines who is with former POW Chief Warrant Officer 2 James Hardy Hestand in February 1973. But he seems to be wearing the Green Bordered Oval rather then the Grey Bordered one.

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