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*Rough* Schlueter Helmet Date & Configuration Chart


Grant G.
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I normally wouldn't post a helmet with a lot number already on the list, but I just got this near mint (besides for some storage marks) Schlueter that has a slightly different configuration than the one in the list. Heat stamp is 424A. As with the one already list it it has flat steel hardware, OD7 chinstraps on swivel bails, and a manganese rim. However, this one is rear seam rather than front seam. Interesting to see that even within the same lot number there are some differences. This one also came with a mint capac liner with mint sweatband.

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I have a similar case as Nickman, a Schlueter helmet with heat stamp 323A and a stainless steel rim, while the one listed has a manganese one instead (For the records: OD3 chinstraps, flat steel hardware, no liner unfortunately). This fellow must have had a tough life - Several layers of paint: Olive over dark green over red over olive. Still original on the inside but with traces of salt water. It is marked DCC. At some point in time it must have had a stripe from front to back.

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I can't upload pictures (apparently the file is too big. If you know how to attach larger pictures please let me know). Anyway, to add to the list, I just bought a really rough M1 helmet. Originally I couldn't see the heatstamp and bought it for $17! After cleaning off 2 layers of paint and rust on top it's a Shlueter 60A heatstamp with FS/FB. I will add pictures if I can figure out how.

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Hello everyone! I was fortunate enough to find this Schlueter helmet at a antique store a week ago. The heat stamp is 342 but I can't make out an A or B beside the number. The seam is in the front and the rim appears to be Stainless steel.

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Picked another one up today! 239A Schlueter FS/SB with almost complete Westinghouse liner. OD#3 webbing with midwar green A washers. Original paint/corking with OD#7 chinstraps with flat metal (late war) buckles.

 

Again, someone please inform me on how to upload a larger file. I can't figure it out.

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I have a Schlueter helmet but was confused to begin with as the number was 53 A, it didn't make sense to me and nor did it when I asked others with knowledge on M1 Helmets, its only now I saw with a powerful light at the right angle the faintest signs that it actually is 531 A, however when looking on this Forum I saw the lot number went from 530 A to 533 A which then confused me, but it to me 100% is 531 A, let me no what you guys think, maybe it is a lot number that no one knew about.

 

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Matt

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McDermut99

I picked up a Schlueter pot. 539A, rear-seam, swivel bales, manganese rim, OD 7 chinstraps with a steel hook and flat brass hardware.

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I picked this one up from a junk/surplus store. It was covered with some bizarre netting and plastic aquarium plants, but underneath that was a FS/SB that had been been in service a while-- it ended up with a Vietnam era paint job and chin straps. Appears to be #128A.822e3438781186e1ada23223f876a6f5.jpgadbda215b4049bb0010242c238090976.jpg4162962a838aef69f00faa969913216c.jpg

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On 10/23/2021 at 10:45 AM, gap said:

Another Schlueter for the chart:

 

438A 

FS/SB

Manganese rim

OD7 straps

flat steel hardware

navy grey paint

 

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This is an 02B Schlueter, Fixed Loop, Front Seam, SS rim, OD #3 straps and Flat Brass buckle.

I am quite certain there is no hidden or faint strike number in front of the 02B stamp. I have looked at it with the naked eyes, with two different lighted loops (of differing magnification) in sunlight, shade, room light and in the closet with various lights. My wife thinks I am an idiot. 

I've also dampened the stamping and lightly cleaned it to see if grease or muck was hiding a number. Its just not there. Not even a hint of a light strike. 

The actual helmet can be seen here: Schlueter

 

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I found a m1 at a fleamarket for 40 bucks and it is a shleuter it’s the 491A swivel bail so so 491A has been found also it has corporal decal dried residue on the front of the helmet from the original decal so the helmet was Used by a corporal during the war. 

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On 12/23/2014 at 2:00 PM, Grant G. said:

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I got a question, I got the missing 351A helmet on this, it's a FS SB, would it be Schleuter or McCord?

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On 5/10/2023 at 2:15 PM, fight said:

Here's the earliest lot number I've seen, 9C

 

- Alec

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This is actually an excellent example, of why lot stamps in some circles have gained the reputation of not being a reliable dating method. It is the mis-reading of a lot stamp. No disrespect towards your shell, nor you, I love all M-1 shells and the people that owns them too :) Add to that it’s a C lift, not very common at all.

 

Your shell is not a Schlueter 9C, not even an x9C, it is a 1x9C shell! Here is a little trick to Schlueter shells; the big S under the stamp, is always centered on the stamp (only 99% true, some special stamps exist). So if you have a 54A shell, the S will be centered on the 4. If you have a 278B shell, the S will be centered between the 7 and 8, and so on.

 

Second all lots below 10, have a 0 in front, like 01A, 05B, 07A etc...

 

Because your S is not centered on the 9, but just before the 9, it means there are two numbers in front of the 9. You can actually see part of the number in front of the 9 on your images. It has a curved top and a curved bottom. It will be a 0, 3, 6, 8, or 9. Therefore, you will have a 109C, 139C, 169C, 189C or 199C shell. Because it is a fixed loop, there is only one chance it is a 2 rather than a 1 in the very front, as in 209C.

 

These are Schlueter shells below lot 10. Notice the 0 in front and the centering of the S.

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