Keith Posted May 16, 2011 Share #1 Posted May 16, 2011 I have a parka with this notation on the tag: "Type B-9 Parka". In doing some research I looked at a couple of WW2, B-9 Parka's on this website and I see a difference in the cuffs. The ones pictured on this forum have the knit cuffs exposed, my B-9 has the knit cuffs up inside the sleeve out of view. I was told mine was from a Korea vet, is that why there is a difference; did the sleeve cuffs change between WW2 and Korea? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtbrown Posted May 17, 2011 Share #2 Posted May 17, 2011 Not sure about the cuffs but two ways I know to spot age is the lining and the hood. WWII were usually filled with goose down, had a "satin" lining and the hood was solid. Later ones were lined with the fake fur stuff whose name escapes me at this second and the hood had a zipper down the center. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted May 17, 2011 Not sure about the cuffs but two ways I know to spot age is the lining and the hood. WWII were usually filled with goose down, had a "satin" lining and the hood was solid. Later ones were lined with the fake fur stuff whose name escapes me at this second and the hood had a zipper down the center. Tom Thanks SGT. No zipper on the hood, so I guess it is early. I'll have to research on those cuffs some more. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted May 17, 2011 Share #4 Posted May 17, 2011 There were commercial versions of these. If it has label then a look at that would give a pretty good idea of its origin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share #5 Posted May 17, 2011 There were commercial versions of these. If it has label then a look at that would give a pretty good idea of its origin. I bet that is what it is as the label didn't "look" military to me. I have it packed at the moment. I'll check it out later. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtbrown Posted May 17, 2011 Share #6 Posted May 17, 2011 Be forewarned, however, some of the original WWII jackets had nothing more than a little tag label that said "B-9" and that was it. No maker's name, no contract number(s), nothing. Only time I have ever seen such. If yours has a full tag, don't worry if it says "Eddie Bauer". Bauer made B-9's for the gov't and, in fact, are one of the preferred brands by collectors. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Willaert Posted May 17, 2011 Share #7 Posted May 17, 2011 For reference, you can see the Eddie Bauer B-9 from my collection here: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...00&p=517221 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share #8 Posted May 17, 2011 For reference, you can see the Eddie Bauer B-9 from my collection here: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...00&p=517221 Very nice. Mine is not that good for sure. If I still have it next week I'll get some photos up. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunbunny Posted May 17, 2011 Share #9 Posted May 17, 2011 When you see "TYPE" on the label that usually indicates an item made for the commercial market and not true military issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Willaert Posted May 17, 2011 Share #10 Posted May 17, 2011 When you see "TYPE" on the label that usually indicates an item made for the commercial market and not true military issue. I would have to disagree with that when USAAF items are concerned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share #11 Posted May 17, 2011 I would have to disagree with that when USAAF items are concerned... I agree with a little knowledge; I have a B-2 cap, WW2 and it says: "Type B-2" on the label. However, I am leaning toward a commercial version of the B-9 that I have. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted May 17, 2011 Share #12 Posted May 17, 2011 When it says Type B-2 it is military, when it says B-2 type it is civilian. I lean towards civilian on this jacket if the knits are exposed at the cuff. Remember these jackets and many other military types were made for many years after the war for the civilian market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share #13 Posted May 18, 2011 I lean towards civilian on this jacket if the knits are exposed at the cuff. Thanks, this is what has me confused and maybe you mistyped what you meant. When I look on EBay and this forum I see B-9's with the knit cuff exposed. The coat I have has the knit cuffs up inside the sleeve and you can't see them without looking up the sleeve???? You are right about continued production after the War for civilians. The same estate also had the type parka with the wolf fur trim and when I looked at the label it said J.C. Penny! I didn't buy it....keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmar836 Posted May 18, 2011 Share #14 Posted May 18, 2011 I think what was meant is "Type - XX" is OK whereas "XX - type" is more typically civilian. JMO, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmittyapolis Posted January 29, 2013 Share #15 Posted January 29, 2013 Hello All, I am new here but I am interested in this thread because I have my father's B-9 Parka. He was in the Army from 47-53. The parka still has the QMD mark on it clearly dated as 1953. I am a WW2 reenactor. I know there were two variants of this parka during the war, the first having a down lining and fur collar on the hood and the second having faux fur and a zipper splitting the hood. My question is while my father's jacket is clearly post WW2, is it possible that it is left over stock from WW2 production? Did the immediate post war B-9s differ from the second variant? Mine has the internal elastic cuffs, faux fur and zipper hood but other than a different stitching pattern on the elastic waist band - looks identical to some B-9s that claim to be WW2 period correct I have seen on the internet. I can send pictures to anyone that can advise me. I would love to be able to wear this jacket during winter reenactor events but it has to be as authentic as possible to period correct B-9s. Thanks for reading! Schmittyapolis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted January 29, 2013 Share #16 Posted January 29, 2013 Can you post some pics of it on the basis that "a picture paints a thousand words"? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmittyapolis Posted January 29, 2013 Share #17 Posted January 29, 2013 OK so here is: 1) close-up of the QMD tag 2) front of jacket 3) close-up of front pockets in relation to the buttons/zipper (the pockets seem to be much closer to the buttons on this jacket than what I have seen generally on other B-9s) 4) close-up of sleeve/cuff 5) faux fur hood with split zipper 6) close-up of elastic waist band stitching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted January 30, 2013 Share #18 Posted January 30, 2013 Care has to be exercised with these parkas. See the link below. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/162489-b-9-flight-parka/page__hl__%2Bb-9+%2Bparka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted January 30, 2013 Share #19 Posted January 30, 2013 Also look here. http://www.vintagetrends.com/military/thumbnails.asp?MC=Military+Vintage&CA=Men&SC=Jackets%2FCoats&ST=WWII+Flight+Jackets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmittyapolis Posted January 30, 2013 Share #20 Posted January 30, 2013 Sabrejet, so this jacket would have not been issued by the Army to my father? Perhaps he picked it up at the PX? I am familiar with the second link as that is where I did some of my research on the jacket. They are claiming that one that looks identical to the one I have is a WW2 period B-9. See link below. http://www.vintagetrends.com/military/itemdetails.asp?YZ=A09C9C9C888A92&RN=12&TR=20&SS=&MC=Military+Vintage&CA=Men&SC=Jackets%2FCoats&ST=WWII+Flight+Jackets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted January 30, 2013 Share #21 Posted January 30, 2013 My point was that vintage civilian copies of this parka exist...I have one (or one very like it) myself. Check this one out. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230913174381?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmittyapolis Posted January 30, 2013 Share #22 Posted January 30, 2013 OK thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted January 30, 2013 Share #23 Posted January 30, 2013 Also, bear in mind that the Army Air Force's B-9 parka was 100% down-filled. According to C.G. Sweeting's book (the "bible" in regard to WW2 aviation clothing) "...production (of the B-9) was discontinued in early 1944." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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