Spike Posted November 18, 2019 Share #1 Posted November 18, 2019 So maybe these have been discussed somewhere on this site but what is the deal with these. I have had this for about 20yrs and every now and then I find it. Are these strictly civilian? That would be my guess. I was told these were late VN era but the material looks RDF? What say ya'll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted November 18, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted November 18, 2019 Share #3 Posted November 18, 2019 My understanding is they were issued to the U.S. Marine Corps. I believe they date to the early to mid 1970's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUDMAR1975 Posted November 18, 2019 Share #4 Posted November 18, 2019 Looks like a high quality civilian copy judging from the label. Most assuredly not Marine Corps issue in the 1970's. We didn't get cammouflage field jackets until the late 1980's and by then they were the woodland pattern. Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted November 18, 2019 Share #5 Posted November 18, 2019 You will see photos of Marines, USAF Security Police & ARVN troops wearing these in the 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted November 18, 2019 Share #6 Posted November 18, 2019 Army surplus civilian copy jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted November 18, 2019 "You will see photos of Marines, USAF Security Police & ARVN troops wearing these in the 70's." If this is true I would love to see them. This isn't VN era material. Owen, I tend to agree. Still, you don't see these that often and these are the only ripstop M65s that I have run across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted November 18, 2019 If it makes any difference the zippers are brass Scoville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easterneagle87 Posted November 18, 2019 Share #9 Posted November 18, 2019 Isn't this what they refer to as the: RDF - ERDL camo pattern. (Rapid Deployment Force) Produced after the green - green ERDL's and before the mass produced 1980's woodland's. That's how I categorize them by date. In my opinion, a much nicer and more durable uniform than those god awful Post Vietnam OG sateen crap they issued. The pants had cargo pockets. They were better color wise as well as they didn't fade to bluish gray when washed a billion times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted November 18, 2019 Share #10 Posted November 18, 2019 "You will see photos of Marines, USAF Security Police & ARVN troops wearing these in the 70's." If this is true I would love to see them. This isn't VN era material. Owen, I tend to agree. Still, you don't see these that often and these are the only ripstop M65s that I have run across. I showed you photos of these being worn in the warehouse when I bought that load from LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share #11 Posted November 18, 2019 I don't remember seeing any pics. You should still have the pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted November 18, 2019 Share #12 Posted November 18, 2019 I hope you all keep slagging them, so I can continue to buy them cheaply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted November 18, 2019 Share #13 Posted November 18, 2019 What about the the "RN" - isn't that a required mark for the civilan clothing market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted November 19, 2019 Share #14 Posted November 19, 2019 Here You Go, Marine Corps Officer, circa 1980-81. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted November 19, 2019 Share #15 Posted November 19, 2019 No doubt but private bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted November 19, 2019 Well for $10.00 I didn't get hurt. I got it on Melrose at a place where all the jackets were $10.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milsurp_scout_14 Posted November 20, 2019 Share #17 Posted November 20, 2019 Alpha Industries was a supplier of the M65 to the military for decades. That being said, every military Alpha Industries (or any company for that matter) M65 has a contract number. All the 'civilian' models have the RN number. They look exactly the same because they're made on the same equipment by the same supplier (at least they were...more modern Alpha stuff isn't quite the same anymore). As with anything, it is conceivable that this was bought private purchase by a service member and used. Brass Scovill zipper M65's usually date to the very late 1970s-mid 1980s. I'm not sure why any military specification would ever call for light ripstop on a cold weather jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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