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#26 Peace

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 10:04 AM

Here is a nice inland helmet liner, marked with 1st LT rank at the front. You can just see the underlaying gold/yellow paint from when the owner was a 2nd LT. I also have the steel shell, wich is marked too.

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 11:30 AM

here's my 44th Division CAPAC 51/52 . Does anyone know what the other red/yellow marking is? Also, wasn't the 44th deactivated after WW2? Why would their unit decal be on a later issue liner?


This is the insignia for the 106th Cavalry. It was an Illinois NG unit. After WWII, Illinois became a two-division state. The 33rd Infantry Division, headquartered in Chicago, and the 44th Infantry Division, initially headquartered in Waukegan.


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#28 Mk1rceme

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 12:13 PM

Here is a late-war Westinghouse 6th Army Captains liner named to George Pacal. Found him on NARA luckily enough.

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 12:15 PM

Late-war Firestone with Kathleen across the front.

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 12:23 PM

Mid-war Westinghouse named to Del Hershey...also named inside with his service #. Also found this gent on NARA. Paint on outside of liner more than likely added post-war. I don't think his superiors would have liked the three star paint job too much.

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 12:34 PM

Mid-war CAPAC rigger-type para liner. This one belonged to retired Col. Raymond H. Beaty. Really nice condition.

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 01:45 PM

From a farm in the Rhone Valley...

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 02:58 AM

Mid-war CAPAC rigger-type para liner. This one belonged to retired Col. Raymond H. Beaty. Really nice condition.


Nice marked liner, but to be slightly picky (and hopefully not taking this thread off course), it's a post-war (late 40's/early 50's) factory modification to paratrooper standard of a Capac infantry M1 liner.

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 10:03 AM

These 3 are mine...al 28th Infantry Divison marked liners. 2 Westinghouse 1 Capac.
The one on the bottom left is an early white rayon sqaure washer westinghouse (I have the shell that belongs to it also). The one on top is IDéd to the soldier, capac liner. The one on the bottom right is named to SGT Adams, its a westinghouse also.

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#35 Mk1rceme

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 10:16 AM

Nice marked liner, but to be slightly picky (and hopefully not taking this thread off course), it's a post-war (late 40's/early 50's) factory modification to paratrooper standard of a Capac infantry M1 liner.

Cheers,
Glen.



Yep! I'm aware of that...thats why I said "rigger style" in the description. May not be the proper description but that is what I call the liners with the yokes and snaps added. The liner was in use in the early fifties when Mr. Beaty was Captain and CO of the 78th tank bn. I have other items from Mr. Beaty from his service in the early fifties. In the description of his service it says he jumped with the 11th airborne into the Philippines late in the war...and won a bronze star there. Too bad I couldn't get that liner.

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 10:33 AM

WOW... some really nice liners guys! Keep 'em coming! http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/twothumbup.gif

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 06:42 PM

I posted this a while ago...and interesting Korean MP helmet and liner set.
It looks to be Marine divisional marking as well.
I will have to check my other liners...I know there is a couple of white paintred MP liners in the pile.
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Posted 16 May 2008 - 09:50 AM

THIS IS A FLEA MARKET FIND FROM THE COLMAR POCKET. STUPID HOW THE PREVIOUS OWNER REPAINTED THE HELMET - LEAVINIG THE INSIGNIA OUTLINED...

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 10:10 AM

THIS IS A FLEA MARKET FIND FROM THE COLMAR POCKET. STUPID HOW THE PREVIOUS OWNER REPAINTED THE HELMET - LEAVINIG THE INSIGNIA OUTLINED...


Try a product called "Goof-Off". Be careful around the 3rd ID insignia but, you should be able to get the post war paint off and down to the original finish. At the beginning of this thread I have a 29th liner shown that was worse than what you have, but when I was done it looked nearly pristine. Be patient when you do this, it may take an hour or two but the results are worth the time.

On interesting and related note, I've got a Chaplains uniform from the 63rd ID, 254th IR. The Chaplain, Captain Frank Rustmeyer, was attached to the 3rd ID during the Colmar Pocket action.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 09:45 AM

I am not really a helmet collector but saw this thread and thought you guys might enjoy this pic. It shows two members of the soon-to-be famous 442nd Regimental Combat Team in training at Camp Shelby, Miss. in 1943. Here is the photo caption:

Modernized combat training takes into account many hitherto ignored aspects of presenting a formidable front. Facial expression and accompanying sound effects are now considered highly important. The business of killing is not a gentlemen's game and a ruthless enemy is expected to be more impressed by an opponent who neither looks nor sounds like one. Here, privates Kato and Ota of the Japanese American combat team, in training at Camp Shelby, experts in bayonet routine, do their stuff for the camera. They are, in reality, nice boys, believe it or not. --

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Posted 31 May 2008 - 11:20 AM

Gents, this string inspired me to go back and look at the liner s I have buried under tinpots and came up with this jewel---Indiana Jones move over....

As you can see, it's a fairly common VN era (dated Mar 69) helmet liner---but I noticed some red color showing under the paint on each side, so using my fingernail, I started gently scraping away the paint and very soon the 82nd AB decal begain to emerge---I think I'll leave the other side covered--you can see its the same decal---so in case I ever trade or sell it, somebody else can get the same thrill of finding it like I did.

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#42 Captainofthe7th

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Posted 31 May 2008 - 06:34 PM

The only marked liner I have is this one on the right:

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I redid the shell because there was a bunch of silver swastikas and splotches on it...

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 05:04 PM

84th Infantry Division "Railsplitters"  (Correction:  70th Division "Trailblazers")

Westinghouse CAPAC double stamped Korean War rebuilt liner

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corrected info


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Posted 10 July 2008 - 02:53 AM

That's the 70th Division. Fascinating history in WW2, Operation Nordwind etc.
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 10:36 AM

That's the 70th Division. Fascinating history in WW2, Operation Nordwind etc.
T


DOH!

Yep, 70th Infantry Division (Hey, I'm a swabbie, I just think I know everything! )

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 04:58 PM

Here is one of mine ,

I was planing on stripping this down and repainting it , it is a very nice WWII shell , there is going to be a hole where the tag holder was put through on the front.

what vintage are the markings?

should I consider leaving it alone ?

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 01:14 AM

if it were me i would leave it and if you wanted a plain liner i would shop round for one, since ive been on this site my attitude has changed alot, i wouldnt strip anything unless its a really bad post war reissue reissue reissue with paint runs

#48 Jeeper704

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 01:29 AM

Combat Command B
48th Armored Infantry Battalion

Battalions inactivated 8-11 October 1945 at Camp Myles Standish, Massachusetts, Camp Shanks, New York, and Camp Kilmer, New Jersey; activated 24 November 1950 at Camp Roberts, California; inactivated 15 November 1953 at Camp Roberts California.
48th, 38th, and 23d Armored Infantry Battalions relieved 15 February 1957 from assignment to the 7th Armored Division and consolidated to the 48th Infantry, a parent regiment under Combat Arms Regimental System.


The helmet probably is from the 1950 - 1953 period.

I'd leave it as is as it has interesting markings.

Erwin

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#49 sgtbarnes44

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 05:35 AM

Here are four of mine. Most of them have already been posted on that forum.

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 05:37 AM

FREE FRENCH MILITARY POLICE
9th COLONIAL INFANTRY DIVISION

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