. Hi mikie,   Thank you, 2007 it only seems like yesterday when I started the thread  . . . . . . . . . . . . .    I normally wake up when my Rooster calls, but he's become a bit unreliable recently so I have replaced him with a female duck, I now wake up at the quack of dawn.  !!!!  😂 😂   Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, May 03 2O25.   ….    

This is the New York Times coverage of the Elsworth papers that he did not release at the time of the first papers. I think all of these knock down any thought that nothing was going on at that time. I have not even played all of the cards. So, my first question still stands...Why? Is all of this some face-saving exercise?   https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/us/politics/nuclear-war-risk-1958-us-china.html

In this part of the Pacific at this time I can find nothing to indicate anything other than a pot about to boil over. As to why this gets under played...I have no idea. The shoot downs with the USSR stayed hidden for decades and much of it is still hidden. When you start reading about all of the US air assets sent to and around Taiwan and every shoot down of a Communist Chinese aircraft being from a Taiwanese pilot...maybe that's  true...or maybe not.      I just find it really odd you can find info on USAF and USSR air combat spanning years during the cold war and not one defined contact between the US and China...nothing.   https://nautilus.org/foia-document/air-operations-in-the-taiwan-crisis-of-1958/ 

I have sometimes seen the medal numbers written by hand on the GOs. It is not common but it was done, especially in North Africa in 1943.   I have also seen the numbers sometimes recorded in the service record books of enlisted men, mostly 8th AAF early in the war.     Kurt

Well, I'll be! The USAF didn't lose all of the papers after all, just some of them. Yup! even those accounts are danged warm.     https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/0359meaning/    

No patch but a pin of Wuerzburg Rod and Gun Club, I found some years ago. The pin measures 3,5 cm in diameter.    

Hmmmm, an almost day by day accounting of what was going on in Taiwan. I guess not all the information was lost.       https://warhistory.org/@msw/article/taiwan-air-force-taiwanese-straits

Amazing, the ribbon is spectacular, the oily sooty stains, the wear really speak volumes.  Congrats!

Nope! The Hoover institute cites two Navy carrier battle groups deployed and some nukes to Taiwan along with everything else. Not feeling the "cold" at all!   https://www.hoover.org/research/guns-august-taiwan-strait-1958

Nope! Nukes on the table is also not feeling very "cold".       https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2021-05-28/nuclear-war-china-tensions-over-taiwan-raise-profile-1958-crisis