Need help on these two

[Bill Scott]

I can't remember the designation on these two Thanks for your help.Scotty

[Bill Scott]

Second one

[stratasfan]

What does the banner on the bottom of the first one say? Strength through something . . . ?

 

Now, the bottom one . . . I've never seen one so old, but I know the same design, just a modern patch for being a commemorative patch representing a fallen paratrooper. 

[Longhorn92]

Pocket hanger could be the Americal Division Combat Center. They trained new guys when they arrived in country. I see stars on the right side. 

[Bill Scott]

Elizabeth it's through Knowledge.

 

[vintageproductions]

The winged help and boot is a generic airborne novelty piece.

There is a also a Japanese made version, Marines used on tour jackets.

[stratasfan]

Boy . . . I can't find anything similar to the Combat Center one! 

[Bill Scott]

Thanks Bob that's what I thought it might be.Scotty

[Siamundo]

This doesn't answer your question about the Combat Center patch, but I picked up this small group 25+years ago and had always wondered if it might be related to the 199th Infantry Brigade although I was never able to connect all the dots.

[Matt-M]

Maybe already known, but the motto is for the 141st Military Intelligence Battalion.