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Hello,

I've looked at what references I have and on line images and I can't figure this one out.

 

I hope the pictures are clear enough to figure this out. But as you can see this Insignia is under a coat of paint on a WWII helmet liner, so I can't give you any colors. The liner is a mid WWII liner and has this same insignia showing under the paint on both sides of the liner.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Troy

 

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USMC 2/2 Fox Co 0311 & 1st Recon Bn Delta Co. 0321. 1986 - 1995 (Desert Storm 90/91)

US Army Long Range Surveillance Co F 425th INF ABN LRS Team 1-6 2003 - 2005 (Iraqi Freedom 03/04)

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Looks vaguely like the DUI member hink441 uses as his avatar.

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103rd Infantry Regiment?

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Could be, Rusty?

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"We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!"

 

Winston Churchill

" Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans."

John Winston Lennon

 

 

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Wow,,, You guys are good!! I think you nailed it. I don't see a scroll under it, but looks to be the one!

 

103rd Inf Regt.

 

Thanks.

 

Troy

 

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US Army Long Range Surveillance Co F 425th INF ABN LRS Team 1-6 2003 - 2005 (Iraqi Freedom 03/04)

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Interesting quick history search!

 

When called into service for World War II, the 103rd became part of the 43rd Infantry Division. During this conflict the 103rd took part in four major engagements: Guadalcanal, North Solomons, New Guinea and Luzon. They were the first outfit to reach the Ipo Dam which controlled one third of the water supply for the city of Manilla in addition to being one of the few regiments of the United States Army which actually made “Target Tokyo”.

The 103rd lineage continued on when it became the 20th Armor in the 1950’s and early 60’s and later transitioned into today’s 133rd Engineer Battalion.

USMC 2/2 Fox Co 0311 & 1st Recon Bn Delta Co. 0321. 1986 - 1995 (Desert Storm 90/91)

US Army Long Range Surveillance Co F 425th INF ABN LRS Team 1-6 2003 - 2005 (Iraqi Freedom 03/04)

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No, I think it's a perfect match to the 103rd and even shows the same number of symbols inside the X. Also a closer inspection to the bottom of the crest does appear to have a scroll. It's hard to see due to being worn off from rubbing on the shell, but I can see something is there now that I know what I'm looking at.

I tried to photo it, but very hard to catch with the camera.

 

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US Army Long Range Surveillance Co F 425th INF ABN LRS Team 1-6 2003 - 2005 (Iraqi Freedom 03/04)

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Looks vaguely like the DUI member hink441 uses as his avatar.

 

Hello everyone. The DUI in my avatar is the 111th Field artillery from the 29th Inf Div. They are a Virginia National Guard component.

 

I believe you guys are correct with the 103rd Inf Regt. Great detective work !! :)

 

Chris

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No, I think it's a perfect match to the 103rd and even shows the same number of symbols inside the X. Also a closer inspection to the bottom of the crest does appear to have a scroll. It's hard to see due to being worn off from rubbing on the shell, but I can see something is there now that I know what I'm looking at.

 

I thought it looked like part of a scroll in the first pictures you posted, now we know.

 

The symbols inside the x are actually the fleur de lis.

 

RC

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I thought it looked like part of a scroll in the first pictures you posted, now we know.

 

The symbols inside the x are actually the fleur de lis.

 

RC

 

RC,

 

Thanks for the info. I didn't know what to call those "fleur de lis"! I love to learn!

 

Troy

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US Army Long Range Surveillance Co F 425th INF ABN LRS Team 1-6 2003 - 2005 (Iraqi Freedom 03/04)

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The 103rd descended from the famous 20th Maine Vol Inf, as at Gettysburg, as in the movie.

 

The azure saltire ("blue X") is a common heraldic motif in Army DUIs, used to denote Civil War service (from the CSA battle flag).

 

Great information!! Thanks for the education!

 

Troy

USMC 2/2 Fox Co 0311 & 1st Recon Bn Delta Co. 0321. 1986 - 1995 (Desert Storm 90/91)

US Army Long Range Surveillance Co F 425th INF ABN LRS Team 1-6 2003 - 2005 (Iraqi Freedom 03/04)

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Yes, that's the distinctive unit insignia for the 133rd Engineer Battalion, descended from the 103rd Infantry Regiment, which, during World War II, was part of the 43rd Division in the Pacific Theater of Operations.

Here's their lineage: http://www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/lineages/branches/eng/0133enbn.htm

And here's the heraldry: http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Catalog/HeraldryMulti.aspx?CategoryId=8305&grp=2&menu=Uniformed%20Services

 

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If no scroll at the bottom, maybe its 12th Corps...

My thought also, but you can see the fleur-de-lis's if you look very closely.

No scroll could just be the difference between the DUI and the COA.

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