Or,`abide`by`the`confines`of`the`discussion.`In`a`rules`based`order`that`would`be`the`norm.

The`war`powers`act`is`clearly`layed`out.`For`those`who`do`not`understand`it`may`I`suggest`reading`it.

Regardless of who is turning it political, I do think it's probably time to stop the topic from getting out of hand.  Wade

Hello all. I came across this site and topic quite randomly as I was looking up a few treasured memorabilia items when moving things around here. So, heres my contribution to this topic. In honor of my grandfather, Capt. Earl T. Hydeman (pictured). Most submariners of the era will know him best for his USS Sea Dog (SS 401) experience as chronicled in the books "Hellcats Of The Sea" and "Hellcats" and the movie "Hellcats Of The Navy".  I have a marvelous 6 page typed (by him) synopsis of the Sea Dog during that period. So, here are a 2  of the butt station, ashtray items he received. Both in excellent condition. The butt station is from his service as XO on the USS Tuna, when he was a Lieutenant, and the ashtray from his service at COM SUB DEV I hope they add to the memories shared here.

I found this on reddit and thought it was a very early rolled collar uniform, though enlisted in this case.      

So exactly how can you debate a conflict with global impacts happening at this very moment without it turning political?  You believe this war/not war was started for one reason. I believe it was started for another.    You start a discussion about something happening right now that you believe is history. It is not history. It is current events. 

You`are`the`one`turning`this`into`a`political`debate.`Do`you`not`see`this?``You`bait`the`conversation`with`your`points`of`view`then`cry`fowl`when`someone`takes`your`bait.`

Thanks I found it odd also ? Having eye issues and could not see details correctly!