I have both cotton and wool versions of the 1909 Spec dated double disc coats.  Not named one has discs the other doesn't.  What is the going rate for these?  I am thinking about parting with my my pre-WWI stuff.   Thanks Bob

Hi Phill,   Interesting that this is a known faker trait among British circles.  Over the years, I’ve gotten much better at id’ing fakes.  Usually if a patch looks ugly to me, then I assume it’s a fake.  One’s gut feeling is important.  The old saying that I wouldn’t want it in my collection is a way of trusting one’s gut even if you don’t know for sure it’s a fake.     Dan

Those jackets are absolutely fantastic! They're truly works of art! Thanks for sharing. - Henry

This is a very belated thank you for your opinion!! Thanks,  manayunkman. It came with an engraved good conduct medal, paperwork of the 347th fighter group.

Not everyone that sold insignia manufactured them. Often the larger companies that manufactured insignia wholesaled unmarked items to smaller companies to sell under their name. I believe this was originally blackened for wear on the gray overseas hat (or what ever the navy called them) it is just badly worn.

If you google it there are still companies that pump out these patches. I think they are neat but distinctively Pakistani-looking. Not an issue until people claim WWII period English patches, IMO. Doyler, that one looks pretty high quality. Dave    

Link to the same book if that fails to open   https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=77e57cfd6175595d6c32b5d4b4819f30c0851b6c31e8512e236a999408829decJmltdHM9MTc4MDE4NTYwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=090314c8-1a7e-6b3a-0591-02761bec6a11&psq=WAR+OF+THE+REBELLION%2c+1861+ΤΟ+1867.+REVISED+AND+COMPILED+BY+BRIG-GEN.+RICHARD+H.+ORTON%2c+ADJUTANT-GENERAL+OF+CALIFORNIA.+(Late+Captain+CompanyM%2c+First+California+Cava&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9hcmNoaXZlLm9yZy9kZXRhaWxzL3JlY29yZHNvZmNhbGlmb3IwMDAwYnJpZw

That looks like a nice WWII set! You don’t show a front view of the liner but I assume it has the WWII grommet hole in the front center? I think the number is a mold batch number? Here’s an interesting link to liner manufacturers that was posted years ago -  Nice  helmet! Frank

Yokota57, Your post brought back a memory from my youth.  My Father had a saying when he witnessed bad driving - "It's not the Tiger in the tank, it's the Jack-rump behind the wheel".  Thanks for the memory.  Brian please pardon my hijacking of your thread.  Great patch.

Amazing find and so complete; all of it tells such a horrific tale.   Kurt