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This mystery ribbon was on a USMC uniform that was donated to out VFW post last week. It was a WWII Marine's dress coat. The standard group of ribbons was there... WWII Victory, Amer. Defense, Asiatic campaign, Purple Heart and this thing! It's green and twice the width of a normal ribbon. It has 2 silver stars and 2 bronze OLCs. The attachment pin is the older type without the lock. None of the Marines I showed it to have seen it before. I think it may be a theater made thing??

Well I get a No_outside_hosting message when I try to insert the pics. Apparently it won't work here. :( I'll try something else.

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Shakethetrees

Here are a couple of images of a wavy edge WWI Occupation of Germany Medal ribbon that was worn alongside of a WWI Victory Medal. USN/USMC -pre 1951, 1/2" width.

 

If memory serves, the WWI Occupation Medal was not authorized until 1941, with the wavy edged ribbon being made available soon after.

 

Due to wartime shortages it was not struck and issued until after the war.

 

I can't get to my library right now to lock this down, but I think I'm close, if not right.

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Air Force makes sense, it does seem as though there was a heck of a lot more guys with the USAAF in the CBI area than army guys.

Old post I realize, Reverend, but thought I'd add this. I just removed these from my dad's dress uniform jacket yesterday. I'm going to mount them, along with his silver bullion CBI shoulder patch and his leather blood chit.

He was a captain in the army, teaching the Chinese how to shoot howitzers at a base out side of Kunming, China. Circa early '45. I'm not an expert in these but I think he had a couple sewn to his jacket upside down. But this is the order he had them on his uniform.

Scott

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Here are a couple that show up on rare occasion. These are Civil Air Patrol from the WWII time frame. The first is a CAP Encampment ribbon. The second is the first pattern Recruitment ribbon. Later versions have the stripes going vertical instead of at an angle.

 

Allan

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Here are a couple that show up on rare occasion. These are Civil Air Patrol from the WWII time frame. The first is a CAP Encampment ribbon. The second is the first pattern Recruitment ribbon. Later versions have the stripes going vertical instead of at an angle.

 

Allan

Not WWII, say early to mid 60's. Also, the ribbon on the right is the Membership Ribbon.

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Thanks for the clarification. I find it interesting that the WB ribbons look exactly like the WWII made pieces. I wonder when WB stopped making these types of ribbons?

Allan

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Yep, definitely not a P.O.W. ribbon either! I had to pay very steeply for a uniform that I wanted because the man served literally beside another man in my collection. The seller said he was a P.O.W. because of the ribbon (I'd identified him, wasn't in the division's pow book or NARA) but a pile of bidders bought the prisoner story when he was just like a bunch of other GIs that grabbed any old occupation ribbon and went home! Oh well, I reunited two buddies that served inches from each other 73 years ago!

 

Here are a couple of images of a wavy edge WWI Occupation of Germany Medal ribbon that was worn alongside of a WWI Victory Medal. USN/USMC -pre 1951, 1/2" width.

 

If memory serves, the WWI Occupation Medal was not authorized until 1941, with the wavy edged ribbon being made available soon after.

 

Due to wartime shortages it was not struck and issued until after the war.

 

I can't get to my library right now to lock this down, but I think I'm close, if not right.

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Thanks for the clarification. I find it interesting that the WB ribbons look exactly like the WWII made pieces. I wonder when WB stopped making these types of ribbons?

Allan

 

My guess is sometime in the late 1970s. These designs were really not that popular. The designs were developed by one individual at CAP NHQ and were generally regarded negatively because the ribbons looked like prizes in Cracker Jack boxes. I was a young CAP lieutenant then. I remember that in the right heat, the thin woven ribbons (like the Membership Award) would actually flatten out and fall off the ribbon bar.

 

BTW, the ribbon bar is upside down and probably means the senior member/officer in question completed Level I training and what was then classified as a "Class A Encampment."

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Are there any good resources on the order of precedence for the obsolete American awards. I'm most interested in pre-WWI to post-WWI U.S. Navy awards.

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Skysoldier80

Actually the WWII variant of the medal was not first awarded until April 1947 so WWII uniforms where you see this ribbon on it meant that because no medal had been made, the old ribbon bar was issued as a place holder until the new ones started being issued.

 

 

I've been asked about this one before....definitely not as hard to ID as some of the ribbons that you have posted, but still slightly uncommon.

 

The reason it is uncommon is that I have seen these on several WWII (NOT WWI) Uniforms and the soldier in question was no where near old enough to be a WWI vet.

 

I think what the consensus was, if they served on occupation duty after WWII, they just threw this ribbon on their rack because the WWII Army of Occupation medal hadn't yet been adopted. If I am wrong, somebody please correct me on this

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Lee Ragan

Here are a couple that show up on rare occasion. These are Civil Air Patrol from the WWII time frame. The first is a CAP Encampment ribbon. The second is the first pattern Recruitment ribbon. Later versions have the stripes going vertical instead of at an angle.

 

Allan

The first design Cadet Encampment ribbon was used from Jan. 1954 to July 1964. The ribbon is shown upside down. The other ribbon is the first design of the membership ribbon and was used from June 1966 thru Aug. 1982 when replaced by the current design. The ribbon is awarded to senior members (adults), for completion of Level One intro training.

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Salvage Sailor

Scabbard and Blade Society

 

Original five star ribbon and current ribbons on chart

 

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Skysoldier80

Before the actually WWII red black and white version was officially made, this ribbon was given out as the occupation award for immediate post war Germany because the medal used to be called the Occupation medal. After the new one was authorized most who had gotten out never wrote in to get their award changed.

 

I've been asked about this one before....definitely not as hard to ID as some of the ribbons that you have posted, but still slightly uncommon.

 

The reason it is uncommon is that I have seen these on several WWII (NOT WWI) Uniforms and the soldier in question was no where near old enough to be a WWI vet.

 

I think what the consensus was, if they served on occupation duty after WWII, they just threw this ribbon on their rack because the WWII Army of Occupation medal hadn't yet been adopted. If I am wrong, somebody please correct me on this

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On 3/21/2013 at 12:50 PM, Captainofthe7th said:

Washington National Guard Achievement medal also shows up very often.


Rob

 

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I believe this is the same ribbon. I once found the ribbon on a two bar set from the fifties that I believe also contained the Navy Achievement Ribbon, Army (Navy) Of Occupation, NDSM, Korean Service Medal and United Nations Korean Service Medal. It seems like at some point I had found some information that the ribbon was some sort of early NATO ribbon. That would make more sense being worn by a soldier assigned to US Army Europe. 

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Captainofthe7th
7 hours ago, seanmc1114 said:

I believe this is the same ribbon. I once found the ribbon on a two bar set from the fifties that I believe also contained the Navy Achievement Ribbon, Army (Navy) Of Occupation, NDSM, Korean Service Medal and United Nations Korean Service Medal. It seems like at some point I had found some information that the ribbon was some sort of early NATO ribbon. That would make more sense being worn by a soldier assigned to US Army Europe. 

 

 

Yes, I have learned since that time (wow, 2013!) that this is always more likely the NATO service ribbon.   It is recognized in some manuals and pamphlets along with ribbons like "Korean Occupation" that would cost you a fine if caught!  Excellent photo showing it in use.

 

Thanks,

Rob

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menelder1941
On 3/29/2015 at 6:40 PM, AverageJoeWWII said:

As the topic says..What is this ribbon ?

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The ribbon is a multi use one,

WB#    Category    Ribbon_Name
4015    NG    AZ. N.G. Medal of Honor-Sty.A (Obs.)
4015    ROTC    Young Marines Drug Demand Reduction
4015    ROTC-O    American Logistics Association ROTC Award
4015v    LOTC    LOTC #51 Perfect Attendance
4015v    NG    SD. N.G. Distinguished Service Medal-Sty.B
4015v    NG    NE. N.G. Individual Achievement Medal
4015V    NG    AZ. N.G. Honor Attendance Ribbon-Tp1
4015v    NG    WV. N.G. Distinguished Service Medal 

The widths vary on some due to when made, etc.

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menelder1941
On 5/1/2019 at 2:39 PM, Lee Ragan said:

The first design Cadet Encampment ribbon was used from Jan. 1954 to July 1964. The ribbon is shown upside down. The other ribbon is the first design of the membership ribbon and was used from June 1966 thru Aug. 1982 when replaced by the current design. The ribbon is awarded to senior members (adults), for completion of Level One intro training.

If you want to see the dates when these were authorized, see=http://www.frontiernet.net/~ericbush/US/Caporder.htm

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