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#1 disneydave

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 11:48 AM

Hello and welcome to the Disney sub forum.

Through this platform I plan to share my knowledge of the Disney Studio's involvement in WW II. I've been collecting vintage 1930s Disney since the early 1980s and Disney war related items since the 1990s. I'll illustrate most of the posts I create with items from my own collection, which numbers well over 200 items, as well as with items from the collections of several of my friends.

Disney's Studio became a bonifide war plant during the war and he was able to get draft deferrals for several of his artists. Disney artists produced propaganda films for the federal government, training films for the military, created over 1,200 combat insignia, and created art used in numerous homefront campaigns including rationing, salvage, and the sale of bonds.

Some of the agencies the Studio produced work for included the War Manpower Commission, the California War Council, the Secretary of Agriculture, the Treasury Department, the Food Distribution Administration and the War Production Board. Some of the private agencies and groups Disney artists helped out included the Red Cross, the Los Angeles War Chest and the Fight For Freedom Committee to Defend America.

Feel free to post you comments or questions and I'll do my best to answer them.

Thanks for stopping by and enjoy the posts!

Edited by disneydave, 16 June 2007 - 11:53 AM.


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Posted 23 August 2008 - 08:37 AM

Hello,

I do not want to set up separate topic for this question because the number of possible replies could be minimal, if only. American singer Karen Carpenter collected Disney memorabilia. Is it known what she had in her collection?

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 05:04 PM

This sub-forum,brought me to join-up and be a member. Im interested in Disney in the Military,as well as Looney Tunes and other Cartoons such as Popeye and Woody Woodpecker etc.

Also what i find interesting is the fact that during the Vietnam era,the Toons changed to Spy vs Spy,Snoopy,Betty Boop,Little Fanny Annie,and the Red Baron.

Thanks for starting this great thread.

Gary

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#4 disneydave

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 08:27 PM

Welcome Gary...the whole forum is great - there are so many neat collections and stories on this site and a lot of great people too! Enjoy your time here!

David

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 08:29 AM

Hello and welcome to the Disney sub forum.

Through this platform I plan to share my knowledge of the Disney Studio's involvement in WW II. I've been collecting vintage 1930s Disney since the early 1980s and Disney war related items since the 1990s. I'll illustrate most of the posts I create with items from my own collection, which numbers well over 200 items, as well as with items from the collections of several of my friends.

Disney's Studio became a bonifide war plant during the war and he was able to get draft deferrals for several of his artists. Disney artists produced propaganda films for the federal government, training films for the military, created over 1,200 combat insignia, and created art used in numerous homefront campaigns including rationing, salvage, and the sale of bonds.

Some of the agencies the Studio produced work for included the War Manpower Commission, the California War Council, the Secretary of Agriculture, the Treasury Department, the Food Distribution Administration and the War Production Board. Some of the private agencies and groups Disney artists helped out included the Red Cross, the Los Angeles War Chest and the Fight For Freedom Committee to Defend America.

Feel free to post you comments or questions and I'll do my best to answer them.

Thanks for stopping by and enjoy the posts!



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Posted 06 January 2009 - 08:32 AM

Dear Dave,
I communicated with you a while back about my uncle, Lt. Ewart T. Sconiers and that I thought his war journal contained an original sketch by Emmett Cook. Over the holidays I retrieved the journal from my sister and, indeed, the journal contains several great sketches....with a true color-splashed original of "I Wanted Wings", signed "Mutt"....with the date and using my uncle's POW number. Two questions.
(1) In terms of long-term value, should I keep it in the journal...or could I carefully cut it out and frame it? I would not want to diminish its value
(2) What is its value?
Thanks so much!!
Pam Sconiers Whitelock

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:35 AM

Dear Dave,
I communicated with you a while back about my uncle, Lt. Ewart T. Sconiers and that I thought his war journal contained an original sketch by Emmett Cook. Over the holidays I retrieved the journal from my sister and, indeed, the journal contains several great sketches....with a true color-splashed original of "I Wanted Wings", signed "Mutt"....with the date and using my uncle's POW number. Two questions.
(1) In terms of long-term value, should I keep it in the journal...or could I carefully cut it out and frame it? I would not want to diminish its value
(2) What is its value?
Thanks so much!!
Pam Sconiers Whitelock


Pam - PLEASE do not deface the War-time Log!!!!! The logs are quite valuble as historical artifacts - the value of your uncle's will be worth many hundreds of dollars -
May I suggest that you take the log to FedEx/Kinkos with a high quality laser color printer and copy it, paying special attention to Cook artwork. Then you can frame those images and enjoy them while preserving the Log. Best....Bob

Edited by bobgee, 06 January 2009 - 09:35 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:45 AM

Dear Dave,
I communicated with you a while back about my uncle, Lt. Ewart T. Sconiers and that I thought his war journal contained an original sketch by Emmett Cook. Over the holidays I retrieved the journal from my sister and, indeed, the journal contains several great sketches....with a true color-splashed original of "I Wanted Wings", signed "Mutt"....with the date and using my uncle's POW number. Two questions.
(1) In terms of long-term value, should I keep it in the journal...or could I carefully cut it out and frame it? I would not want to diminish its value
(2) What is its value?
Thanks so much!!
Pam Sconiers Whitelock


Have you seen our thread on POW logs at http://www.usmilitar...?showtopic=4563?

Some such logs may be worth a few thousand dollars or more. Your uncle apparently seems to have died while a POW and that adds to the importance of his journal.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:19 AM

Hello Pam.

The Log has more value as a historical document intact. Please do not remove anything from the Log.

A copy can be made, as stated above, but I would not even counsel you to do that if it means causing damage to the book's binding. Perhaps you could purchase a small countertop display case and very carefully open the book to that page, as a way of displaying and enjoying the art. If there are any Museums in your area, perhaps the archivist or the head of the conservation department can best advise you as to how to display the book opened to the appropriate page.

I am working for the Walt Disney family as a consultant on the Walt Disney Museum being built at the Presidio in San Francisco. The Museum is schedule to open after Labor Day this year. I can ask the Collections Manager if you want what the best way to display your Log would be. The Museum will, in the future, mount a special Disney WW II exhibit, separate from the WW II gallery. As part of that exhibit I want to include a special display that speaks about the Luft III Donald Duck - I will include my postcard, Emmet's Log, the original pencil art of Emmet's design that was created at the Disney Studio, as well as other POW Logs with the design.

I would be honored if you would consider a loan of your Log. The Museum is top rate as far as security, environmental controls and fire suppression goes. I am loaning out many pieces from my own collection and feel very comfortable doing so. If you think this is something you'd be interested in participating in, let me know and I can email you details when this part of the project is initiated. If you'd send me a pm with your email address that would be great.

You have a real treasure there.

If you do ever decide you want to part with it I would of course be very interested in adding it to my own collection. It would go nicely with the postcard of the image that Emmet gave to me, especially considering Emmet created the art in your Log.

Cheers,

David

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 07:10 AM

Hey Disney Dave - This looks like a Disney-produced insignia to me. Do you have a record of it. Supposedly a USMC Scouting-Bombing Squadron.
Thanks! Bob

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 07:47 AM

Hi Bob.

This is a great design created for VMSB 333, Marine Air Group 33, 3rd Marine Air Wing. I am not sure of the creation date, but I think the unit served in the South Pacific from August 1943 until the end of the war. That is supposed to be Tojo's house the vulture is dropping its egg on.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 08:19 AM

Hi Bob.

This is a great design created for VMSB 333, Marine Air Group 33, 3rd Marine Air Wing. I am not sure of the creation date, but I think the unit served in the South Pacific from August 1943 until the end of the war. That is supposed to be Tojo's house the vulture is dropping its egg on.


DD _ Thank you for the info! I knew I could count on you!
Best......Bob

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 10:27 PM

the design was created sometime in 1943 by the Disney Sutdios artists , by what Jeff Millstein book says.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 11:58 AM

Hank Porter was the Disney artist who created this design. The image also appeared in Volume 4, Number 10, issue number 45, of Walt Disney's Comics & Stories comic book, which was on the newsstands in June 1944.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:06 AM

PLEASE post more of your emblems here , I know you have many most won't get to see unless you post them here , the displays out west you talk about are great if you can get there to see them, but I'm sure I'm not the only one on the forum for one reason or another that won't get the travel opportunity to see them .

I'm sure other "forum" members feel this way too , you have a vast collection that should be shared with the public to enjoy , Disney" doesn't rule the world afterall, it's all public domain if you have it in your collection it 's your's do display however you wish , i don't think it's right that they should dictate you can/can't display it publicly anywhere you choose to do so .

You can put "copyright" logos across the images etc so they'll be protected that way , if I had a collection like this I would be more than happy to share it .

Edited by Johnny Signor, 23 August 2012 - 11:07 AM.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:06 AM

I have been sharing my collection since January 2007 in this forum and on my own blog. I post when I have time.

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 10:43 AM

HI Dave. Frank Arian from the old homefront website. My you have been busy. just thought Id say hi and let you have a look at my online creation www.victoryarmynavy.com. Whole collection posted. Glad your well friend!!! F.




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