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#1 AZPhil

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 06:35 PM

Hello All,

I have seen several A11's with what I think is the mask hook on backwards.

 But I have seen several of them and I wanted to know if this is for a different type of O2 mask I am not aware of.

Also the others I have seen use the same string attachment. 

 

 

 Can I get your thoughts on this one?

 

 

A11 flight helmet from RVM.jpg

 

Thanks in advance for any info you could share.

 

Semper Fi

Phil


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#2 AZPhil

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 07:04 PM

Here is the other one that was posted on another site.

A11 flight helmet with hook reveresed close up.jpg A11 flight helmet with hook reveresed really close up .jpg

There are three total I found like this and really would like to learn something here.. I was thinking it was wrong ,,but maybe there is an answer.

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 04:15 AM

odd that they are all tacked in place too..maybe a T.O. procedure, or local unit supplement to prevent use with an O2 mask..


Edited by phantomfixer, 19 September 2019 - 04:19 AM.


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Posted 19 September 2019 - 06:40 AM

i have seen a few as well and never understood why this was done, thank you



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Posted 19 September 2019 - 12:38 PM

The hook's on the other side are in the correct orientation to be able to hook the buckle of the mask. Not sure if that helps. Semper Fi. Phil

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Posted 19 September 2019 - 12:55 PM

if there is a hook on the right side...I would say the hook on the left is placed there to prevent the use of those studs for straps to snap to..ie  to make sure the straps are snapped on to the upper stud and lower left stud...the one pic shows the hook and the female side of snap on the stud, thus preventing its use...just a thought

 

There are folks on the forum that know life support tech orders...they might have something on this...the A11 was used well into the 60s by the uSAF for various uses..


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Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:01 AM

Thanks Phantomfixer for the additional info. I hope one of the life support folks take a look at this thread and come up with a definitive answer for this odd set up.

 

I like the user name. I guess you were a F4 fan?? I was a A4 Skyhawk tech for 4 years then other A/C's!!

 

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 01:35 PM

F4Es at Ramstein till we switched to Falcons in 85..crew chief

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Posted 21 September 2019 - 04:21 AM

I really believe they just issued them this way. Tied in place to prevent them from getting lost. Set up for a right handed unhook, but easily reversed. Mine also has the O mask which is tagged and numbered to the helmet. I think it was more of a quick easy to use right out of the box sort of thing.



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Posted 21 September 2019 - 06:03 AM

Could be boxer....post #5 states there are hooks on the right side with the correct orientation......

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Posted 21 September 2019 - 08:18 AM

That is a possibility.. The mask did come with 2 hooks along with other snaps and fittings and it would be the life support folks who would be putting these together for issue to the crews.. It would have given the crew member the chance to replace a broken of missing hook if one was lost with out having to get a new one from the LS shop. Just a thought!!

 My A14 O2 mask that I got was NOS in the box .It did come with 2 hooks and  these accessory's.. I used one hook for my AN-H-15 setup. So that is why there is only one in the pic provided in the accessory package.

A11 envelope1.jpg

A11 snaps and instructions1.jpg

 

Semper Fi.

Phil


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Posted 21 September 2019 - 08:27 AM

Here is the right side view of the second helmet I posted.

For some reason this one is also tied on.

A11 flight helmet right side hook.jpg

 

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