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#51 sgtdorango

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:40 PM

Great stuff gents...forgive me for asking a silly question as im just a humble helmet nerd that also loves me some good camo....but what does TAP stand for or mean??....thanks....mike



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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:54 PM

Hi O,

 

Does the jacket and pants (posted above) match to form a set ? or are they of different cut and different camo type?

 

Thanks,

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:55 PM

Hi Mike

 

I believe its this 

 

TAP stands for troupe aéroportée ( paratrooper)

 

good reference here with a power point to download

 

http://vonstuckcamou...e.fr/france.php

 

cheers

 

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 05:36 PM

thanks!......mike



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Posted 30 August 2014 - 02:55 PM

Hello All,

 

I would appreciate any help in identifying this jacket.  The pattern is somewhat different than the pants I posted earlier in this thread.  The fabric is slightly thinner.  Buttons stamped "durable dot" and zipper is "elless".  Is this an original jacket or a reproduction?  What pattern is it?

 

french TAP 47-56 Jkt (2)ed.jpg french TAP 47-56 Jkt (1)ed.jpg french TAP 47-56 Jkt (3)ed.jpg french TAP 47-56 Jkt (4)ed.jpg

 

Thank you all in advance,

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Posted 30 August 2014 - 03:00 PM

This is a TAP56 jacket with a different pattern of camo.



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Posted 30 August 2014 - 07:41 PM

Thank you Andrei



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Posted 02 February 2015 - 08:47 PM

My TAP47/56 set, includes a jacket with triple-snap straightened lower pockets. Got them last month from the same dealer, but still confused why they have different color tones - Different camouflage sub-types?

 

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 11:44 AM

Different print lot.

 

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 02:12 PM

Thanks Owen!

 

Some more personal collections to follow this topic

 

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 02:15 PM

47/56 smock and pants... in different tones

 

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 02:33 PM

...And a significantly modified 47/53 smock

 

Front side, size has been re-tailored to be a nearly Asia-style cut, lower pockets re-tailored to straight as well, and the main zipper has been replaced by another aluminum zipper, which maybe came from a M65 field jacket

 

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...And the rear side, the beaver tail has been removed, a new big back pocket (map pocket?) was added, and the original main zipper was also moved to here

 

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I have been told that it is an assault vest style modification, but never saw any other example before. Anyone have more info about this?  



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Posted 18 April 2015 - 04:18 PM

Hi Goingehco,

 That is a nicely modified jacket. What's the brand name on the zippers? Looks US. In keeping with the modification theme here's an interesting mod on a TAP47/53 para smock. Belgian brushstroke fabric has been used to create a small pocket. It's use I'm not sure of. I'd say mag pouch but the other pocket and flap was put over top and closes part of the pocket. Multi tool for a weapon perhaps? There is a hole that can be seen on the reverse but why they didn't just patch it I don't know. Unless the hole was made from putting something into the pocket?

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 04:18 PM

Back side.

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 04:30 PM

Close up of added pouch in Belgian brushstrock and of small chest pocket with different dye lot of Lizard camo fabric.

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 12:15 AM

Hi K,

 

Very nice & neat TAP47/53 smock too, thanks for posting! 

 

The zipper brand of my modified 47/53 is Conmar, which was also one of the earliest zipper type in the US M65 field jacket. So if I was right, it might came from an early type M65 jacket. I've been told so from the dealer, and yes, I did have seen a few of other examples before that M65 zipper was used as a "unofficial" replacement for other period garments. I will post the pic of this zipper later.

 

The modification of your jacket is very very interesting, actually I would say that I've never seen this kind of "overlapping & slant" extra pocket before either (at least my personal experience of the Indochina War/VN era). Could I see the hole on the reverse side if possible? If I was right, the Belgian brushstroke fabric was been introduced during the late 1950s and the early 1960s, which was almost the same period with the TAP47/53 pattern, so it may been added to the jacket during the 1960s, or later. Just a little bit of my thought, any comments?

 

And the pic of zipper, again your TAP47/53 jacket is very beautiful.

 

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 03:49 AM

Bit of a necro post, i had these pics of french lizard cam being worn mixed in with a bunch of early VN pics of advisors with ARVN troops in beogam and tigers.

 

I assume the ones with the females is in SVN

 

These are TAP 56 uniforms being worn in all the pics?

 

 

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 03:51 AM

maybe female at back is wearing a simpler cut.

 

the white sneakers are cool 

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 03:52 AM

ARVN medic in the middle is wearing some version as well 

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 03:53 AM

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Posted 04 August 2018 - 06:05 AM

56 correct


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Posted 04 August 2018 - 12:16 PM

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Here’s another being worn by US advisor Maldonado


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Posted 04 August 2018 - 12:49 PM

A friend has a nice 47/56 jacket in his collection originally badged to an US advisor, complete with Viet-made US and ARVN jumpwings etc.



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Posted 11 August 2018 - 11:34 AM

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Here is King wearing the French pattern
Of course wearing this uniform showed to the Viets you were an old combat salt and got respect
I have in my collection the actual suit being worn in the picture
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Posted 17 August 2018 - 01:31 PM

Females in camo uniform are Algerians loyalists. Probably attached to a SAS unit (Section Administrative Spécialisée)


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