kriegsmodell Posted November 11, 2010 #1 Posted November 11, 2010 In a recent thread posted here there was some discussion regarding Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Member Noman asked if anyone had any "Vietnam Veterans For the War" items and Member Howard Kelly posted a very nice Bomb Hanoi patch. See link below for the original thread: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...against,and,war This prompted me to dig out my small collection of Support or Pro-Vietnam War items that are posted below. Thoughts, comments or your items posted appreciated ...... Starting out with perhaps the ultimate response to the Peace Sign necklace. Yep, the WAR sign. These were a favorite of SOG Recon men and others serving in-country. The smaller size version shows up from time to time. The larger brass versions are really hard to find.
kriegsmodell Posted November 11, 2010 Author #2 Posted November 11, 2010 Here are some variations on the theme that member Howard Kelly posted on the aformentioned thread. The B-52 Bomber in a design to mimic the peace sign with Bomb Hanoi or other motto.
kriegsmodell Posted November 11, 2010 Author #3 Posted November 11, 2010 Some additional buttons; these are a little on the aggressive side toward the enemy. The "Napalm Sticks to Hippies" is a rare pin to locate. Another that is not happy with "Hanoi Jane" Fonda .....
kriegsmodell Posted November 11, 2010 Author #4 Posted November 11, 2010 More of a varied nature. All The Way with LBJ and a mushroom cloud along with a Bonds Buy Bombs. The We Shall Over Kill plays on one of the contemporary mottos of civil rights movement. And the classic Better Dead than Red.
kriegsmodell Posted November 11, 2010 Author #5 Posted November 11, 2010 These are of a more traditional nature in the Support our Troops and/or Victory themes. The example at bottom right with the stylized X over the Soviet hammer and sickle is a scarce button.
kriegsmodell Posted November 11, 2010 Author #6 Posted November 11, 2010 Last ones - A Special Forces themed pin at top along with a Tell it to Hanoi as a play on the popular Tell it to Washington. I have never been sure if the green "Vietnam Love it or Leave it" button was supporting or against the war. To me it could be taken either way. It is not an easy button to locate. Would love to see similar items from our members!
USAFnav Posted November 21, 2010 #9 Posted November 21, 2010 Very interesting stuff. I really like the "WAR" pendants. Were those made by soldiers in-country? Pete
kriegsmodell Posted December 5, 2010 Author #10 Posted December 5, 2010 Thanks to all for the kind comments! USAFnav - Both of the WAR pendants are consistent with those made in SEA during the Vietnam period. I do not have information on where they were made although if someone here can provide, that would be great. Might have been Vietnam; just as easily could have been made in Thailand, Taiwan, Japan or even on Okinawa. There are several period photographs in Hardy and Tucker's SOG books of Recon men wearing both styles of pendants. Both versions are hard to locate but I've probably encountered 3 or 4 of the smaller ones for each of the larger style. Hope this helps ....
Steve B. Posted December 6, 2010 #11 Posted December 6, 2010 I knew an officer who had been attached to/advising the Thai special forces and he wore a pendant I liked. It was in the shape of a fragmentation grenade and had the words "F**K PEACE" in stylized lettering similar to the "WAR" pendants above. Supposedly it was solid gold. I've never seen another one like it.
gwb123 Posted December 6, 2010 #12 Posted December 6, 2010 I hate to say this, but as I recall the "All the Way with LBJ" and the mushroom cloud was not a "pro-war" item. It was a protest item expressing the view that LBJ was so dangerous he would lead us into a nuclear war. Ironically, Johnson used the same tactic to beat Barry Goldwater, with the classic "daisy girl" political ad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_(television_commercial) As for the "Vietnam, Love it or Leave It", I'm not sure but I would tend to think this was a mocking and satirical response to the conservative "America, Love it or Leave It" slogan. The point being expressed would be that unquestioned patriotism led to questionable foreign wars. I believe I had one of those "Bomb It" black and white buttons... wore it in high school.
kriegsmodell Posted December 6, 2010 Author #13 Posted December 6, 2010 I knew an officer who had been attached to/advising the Thai special forces and he wore a pendant I liked. It was in the shape of a fragmentation grenade and had the words "F**K PEACE" in stylized lettering similar to the "WAR" pendants above. Supposedly it was solid gold. I've never seen another one like it. I saw one of those pendants a year or so ago on eBay. The seller also stated that it was made of solid gold. I wish I would have saved a photo of it. It was certainly interesting .....
kriegsmodell Posted December 6, 2010 Author #14 Posted December 6, 2010 I hate to say this, but as I recall the "All the Way with LBJ" and the mushroom cloud was not a "pro-war" item. It was a protest item expressing the view that LBJ was so dangerous he would lead us into a nuclear war. As for the "Vietnam, Love it or Leave It", I'm not sure but I would tend to think this was a mocking and satirical response to the conservative "America, Love it or Leave It" slogan. The point being expressed would be that unquestioned patriotism led to questionable foreign wars. Thanks Gil for the clarification. I guess I can throw those two into the "Anti-War" box! Interesting to put these items into their proper historical context. Time fades the meaning ......
nguoi tien su Posted December 8, 2010 #15 Posted December 8, 2010 Here is my contribution : Local made on silk.
mhk Posted December 8, 2010 #17 Posted December 8, 2010 Here is my contribution : Local made on silk. Nice one NTS :thumbsup: Here is mine...
Spy vs Spy Posted April 9, 2011 #19 Posted April 9, 2011 WOOW :w00t: How could I miss this thread. Nice stuff gents :thumbsup: Love your anti hippie/peace/Hanoi collection kriegsmodell :w00t: Regards// Martin
ed101 Posted April 22, 2011 #20 Posted April 22, 2011 Very Nice!! I wore the smaller "WAR" pendant. still have it somewhere... There is also a photo of one being worn innthe book "NAM, the Vietnam Experience 1965-75" by Tim Page and John Pimlott, on page 467. Thanks for posting....
ssggates Posted April 22, 2011 #21 Posted April 22, 2011 Thanks for sharing this, it's one of the coolest threads I've seen lately! It's easy to forget that there were plenty of people who actually supported the troops/war during Vietnam.
M-16 Posted April 22, 2011 #22 Posted April 22, 2011 Very cool I think it is great to see some support buttons!
firefighter Posted February 2, 2013 #23 Posted February 2, 2013 There are some nice anti and pro war items.Some I've never seen before.
Garandomatic Posted February 9, 2013 #24 Posted February 9, 2013 Man, I covet the hell out of those Commie banners...
ArchangelDM Posted November 28 #25 Posted November 28 On 11/11/2010 at 7:01 PM, kriegsmodell said: In a recent thread posted here there was some discussion regarding Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Member Noman asked if anyone had any "Vietnam Veterans For the War" items and Member Howard Kelly posted a very nice Bomb Hanoi patch. See link below for the original thread: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...against,and,war This prompted me to dig out my small collection of Support or Pro-Vietnam War items that are posted below. Thoughts, comments or your items posted appreciated ...... Starting out with perhaps the ultimate response to the Peace Sign necklace. Yep, the WAR sign. These were a favorite of SOG Recon men and others serving in-country. The smaller size version shows up from time to time. The larger brass versions are really hard to find. bringing this back up, this surfaced from a vets estate sale with all his medals and dog tags. It’s the 3inch version and in my opinion quite a hard piece to come by
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