CjVl Posted April 28, 2015 Share #1 Posted April 28, 2015 Saw this ike jacket for sale i think it is 5th infantry division ww2 but i m New in ww2 us patches Link to post Share on other sites
Patchcollector Posted April 28, 2015 Share #2 Posted April 28, 2015 It appears to have the same diamond shape as the 5th,so I would say yes. Here is a link to a nice Blog about the 5th that I found online: http://www.joedemadio.com/5th-infantry-division/ High Flight Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth And danced the skies on laughter-silver wings; Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung High in the sunlit silence. Hovering there I've chased the shouting wind along and flung My eager craft through footless halls of air. Up, up the long delirious, burning blue I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace, where never lark, or even eagle flew; and while, with silent, lifting mind I've trod The high untrespassed sanctity of space, Put out my hand, and touched the face of God. John Gillespie Magee, Jr. June 9, 1922 – December 11, 1941 " And each man stands with his face in the light of his own drawn sword. Ready to do what a hero can." - Elizabeth Barrett Browning Don't let the B@stards wear you down -"Vinegar" Joe Stillwell Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world.Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves.All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people. George Bernard Shaw " Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining" , Fletcher,from the movie "The outlaw Josey Wales" Link to post Share on other sites
BROBS Posted April 28, 2015 Share #3 Posted April 28, 2015 no I think it's the one that looks like two diamonds I am blanking on the division at the moment... 96th Infantry Division GOT SEABEE ITEMS? PM ME! Link to post Share on other sites
B229 Posted April 28, 2015 Share #4 Posted April 28, 2015 no I think it's the one that looks like two diamonds I am blanking on the division at the moment... 96th Infantry Division 96IDINS.GIF Except that the 96th Division is oriented just as the pic you linked to shows: horizontal. The OP's pic shows the diamond shape being worn vertically on the sleeve, like the 5th Division. Link to post Share on other sites
12A54 Posted April 28, 2015 Share #5 Posted April 28, 2015 But the ghost image shows six sides, not like the 5th's diamond shape. I think it's something else. Link to post Share on other sites
RustyCanteen Posted April 28, 2015 Share #6 Posted April 28, 2015 I agree; doesn't look like the 5th ID. I've seen a lot of poorly applied patches on uniforms, but if someone went to the effort of stitching the two points so carefully, I seriously doubt they would ignore the other two. "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." *Sherlock Holmes in "A Scandal in Bohemia"* Link to post Share on other sites
BILL THE PATCH Posted April 28, 2015 Share #7 Posted April 28, 2015 Without seeing the sleeve and exactly how the patch was sewn on it, its hard to tell. Can we get more pics, any ribbons on it? Link to post Share on other sites
BILL THE PATCH Posted April 28, 2015 Share #8 Posted April 28, 2015 And as I'm thinking, I've had plenty of Ike's where the ruptured duck is sewn , but not all the way always a little spot was left unsewn. I know this is a sleeve, just thought I mention it Link to post Share on other sites
CjVl Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share #9 Posted April 28, 2015 Every body thank you alot i have asked the seller for more pictures as soon as i get them i Will show them Link to post Share on other sites
BROBS Posted April 28, 2015 Share #10 Posted April 28, 2015 probably a faker didn't know the correct way to stitch the 96th patch on the sleeve of a blank ike. then was removed later when someone realized it was wrong. also.. B229 not sure how you can tell which way any sleeve is oriented in that pic.. I thought we were looking at it the way it was applied, with the sleeve folded under? -Brian GOT SEABEE ITEMS? PM ME! Link to post Share on other sites
CjVl Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted April 28, 2015 probably a faker didn't know the correct way to stitch the 96th patch on the sleeve of a blank ike. then was removed later when someone realized it was wrong. also.. B229 not sure how you can tell which way any sleeve is oriented in that pic.. I thought we were looking at it the way it was applied, with the sleeve folded under? -Brian Thank you then i Let it pass . Seller said it is a barn find hè have more stuff for sale I Just keep on looking then thank you all for the help and info Link to post Share on other sites
RustyCanteen Posted April 28, 2015 Share #12 Posted April 28, 2015 probably a faker didn't know the correct way to stitch the 96th patch on the sleeve of a blank ike. then was removed later when someone realized it was wrong. also.. B229 not sure how you can tell which way any sleeve is oriented in that pic.. I thought we were looking at it the way it was applied, with the sleeve folded under? -Brian Even if it were oriented wrong it doesn't mean it was a faker who put it there; there are lots of examples of soldiers with insignia malfunctions out there that are perfectly legitimate. That said, with no insignia this one doesn't particularly stand out if the OP is looking for one with SSI on it. (Not B229, but as for the orientation, look closely at the top of the photo in the first post; you can see a pocket flap.) RC "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." *Sherlock Holmes in "A Scandal in Bohemia"* Link to post Share on other sites
David D Posted April 28, 2015 Share #13 Posted April 28, 2015 A barn found Ike, that's a first Collecting WWI 26th Division Machine Gun and Infantry related Helmets, Equipment, Groupings, Photos and Dog Tags! Link to post Share on other sites
BROBS Posted April 29, 2015 Share #14 Posted April 29, 2015 Even if it were oriented wrong it doesn't mean it was a faker who put it there; there are lots of examples of soldiers with insignia malfunctions out there that are perfectly legitimate. That said, with no insignia this one doesn't particularly stand out if the OP is looking for one with SSI on it. (Not B229, but as for the orientation, look closely at the top of the photo in the first post; you can see a pocket flap.) RC RC, thanks.. I see it now! true. I didn't mean it exactly like that but it sure looks like a 96th outline to me. -Brian GOT SEABEE ITEMS? PM ME! Link to post Share on other sites
Teamski Posted April 29, 2015 Share #15 Posted April 29, 2015 Guys, it's French! The patch was a French army or Foreign Legion lozenge rank patch. The flat sides are from having a stripe or two on top. The location on the lower arm is a dead giveaway. The illustration is French Navy, but it gives you an idea what was there..... -Ski In Memory Of......Pte Harold Griffiths, 1805, 1/6th Manchester Regt, KIA June 4th, 1915 in GallipoliCpl Isaac Judges, 40494, 6th East Yorkshire Regt, KIA October 3rd, 1917 in YpresMay they rest in peace..... MSgt - USAF Retired Link to post Share on other sites
BROBS Posted April 29, 2015 Share #16 Posted April 29, 2015 ah ha!! there you go. -Brian GOT SEABEE ITEMS? PM ME! Link to post Share on other sites
RustyCanteen Posted April 29, 2015 Share #17 Posted April 29, 2015 Guys, it's French! The patch was a French army or Foreign Legion lozenge rank patch. The flat sides are from having a stripe or two on top. The location on the lower arm is a dead giveaway. The illustration is French Navy, but it gives you an idea what was there..... -Ski That makes perfect sense given the European location. RC "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." *Sherlock Holmes in "A Scandal in Bohemia"* Link to post Share on other sites
tredhed2 Posted April 29, 2015 Share #18 Posted April 29, 2015 Guys, it's French! The patch was a French army or Foreign Legion lozenge rank patch. The flat sides are from having a stripe or two on top. The location on the lower arm is a dead giveaway. The illustration is French Navy, but it gives you an idea what was there..... -Ski That was a good call. The US supplied the French Army with just about everything post surrender, so it is not surprising the ghost is on what looks like an Ike. Member, ASMIC.Editor, ASMIC's The Trading PostASMIC Executive VP Link to post Share on other sites
Patchcollector Posted April 30, 2015 Share #19 Posted April 30, 2015 Interesting.I would have never thought of a French patch! High Flight Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth And danced the skies on laughter-silver wings; Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung High in the sunlit silence. Hovering there I've chased the shouting wind along and flung My eager craft through footless halls of air. Up, up the long delirious, burning blue I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace, where never lark, or even eagle flew; and while, with silent, lifting mind I've trod The high untrespassed sanctity of space, Put out my hand, and touched the face of God. John Gillespie Magee, Jr. June 9, 1922 – December 11, 1941 " And each man stands with his face in the light of his own drawn sword. Ready to do what a hero can." - Elizabeth Barrett Browning Don't let the B@stards wear you down -"Vinegar" Joe Stillwell Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world.Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves.All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people. George Bernard Shaw " Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining" , Fletcher,from the movie "The outlaw Josey Wales" Link to post Share on other sites
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