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Seller said: It has wide loose embroidered stripes on a red wool/felt backing and measures 5-3/4" tall x 4-1/4" wide. Each strip measures about 3/4" wide.

 

Looks right for the pre WW1 era...

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Weren't the USMC dress blue chevrons prior to 1922, the large seam-to-seam types? So being pre WW1 wouldn't seem to make sense for a dress blue chevron. I'd say this one dates from the early 20's to whenever rockers were introduced. And possibly it's theater-made. Asian, perhaps?

Nice chevron!

Kurt

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indeed a 1stSgt...not a cloth guy, but I don't think it's theater made. a Nice chevron, however

-Brig
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"FOR OUR TOMORROWS, THEY GAVE THEIR TODAYS"
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Sgt John P Huling
Cpl Carlos 'Gilo Monster' Gilorozco
Cpl Stephen C 'Socks' Sockalosky
LCpl Joshua A 'Scottie' Scott
LCpl Jason Lee 'Birdman' Frye
LCpl Nicolas B Morrison
LCpl Jon T Hicks
LCpl Osbrany 'Oz' Montes De Oca
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Weren't the USMC dress blue chevrons prior to 1922, the large seam-to-seam types? So being pre WW1 wouldn't seem to make sense for a dress blue chevron. I'd say this one dates from the early 20's to whenever rockers were introduced.

 

Agreed. 1stSgt and GySgt got two rockers in 1929, so roughly1922-'29. The few USMC dress chevrons I've seen from around that period were applied yellow lace; embroidery points to theater-made to me but I'm not expert. A nice example from the inter-war period!

 

Best regards,

Justin B.

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indeed a 1stSgt...not a cloth guy, but I don't think it's theater made. a Nice chevron, however

Why not? Based on all other examples of U.S.-made insignia of the period I have seen, the construction is not typical of being U.S.-made. Looks like it could be hand embroidered. U.S.-made embroidered insignia is usually very “tight” and of much higher machine-made quality. U.S. chevrons of the first few decades of the 20th century were typically applied material (felt, twill, or other material), not embroidered.

A reverse photo might provide additional clues.

I really like this chevron. It was a great find. I think the price was rather low because it didn’t conform to the construction of typical USMC chevrons of the period (and collectors just didn’t know what to make of it).

Kurt

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not necessarily theater made...England was a large producer of USMC insignia in the 20s and 30s during peace-time, so I'd label it as foreign made, though I'm not personally convinced it was made abroad myself

-Brig
GySgt/USMC/0369
RSU-Quantico


"FOR OUR TOMORROWS, THEY GAVE THEIR TODAYS"
RIP
Sgt Jesse 'Jeff Nasty' Balthaser
Sgt John P Huling
Cpl Carlos 'Gilo Monster' Gilorozco
Cpl Stephen C 'Socks' Sockalosky
LCpl Joshua A 'Scottie' Scott
LCpl Jason Lee 'Birdman' Frye
LCpl Nicolas B Morrison
LCpl Jon T Hicks
LCpl Osbrany 'Oz' Montes De Oca
Pvt Lewis T D Calapini
'The SOI 5'

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