Jump to content


WWII Airborne Transportable vehicles

Started by kyhistorian01 , Aug 09 2011 06:11 PM

  • Please log in to reply
16 replies to this topic

#1 kyhistorian01

kyhistorian01
  • Members
    • Member ID: 6,492
  • 3,439 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Kentucky

Posted 09 August 2011 - 06:11 PM

Here are some photos of a vehicle that was on display at the MVPA show. An airborne transportable vehicle one of several types the army used that could be disassembled and reassembled after airborne transport. Would love to get some more history of these. It was an interesting display

Attached Images

  • P8050067.JPG


#2 kyhistorian01

kyhistorian01
  • Members
    • Member ID: 6,492
  • 3,439 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Kentucky

Posted 09 August 2011 - 06:11 PM

pic 2

Attached Images

  • P8050068.JPG


#3 kyhistorian01

kyhistorian01
  • Members
    • Member ID: 6,492
  • 3,439 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Kentucky

Posted 09 August 2011 - 06:11 PM

pic 3

Attached Images

  • P8050070.JPG


#4 Jack's Son

Jack's Son

    BANNED

  • Banned
    • Member ID: 8,213
  • 19,660 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Over the rainbow.

Posted 09 August 2011 - 07:06 PM

After transport, were these pieces assembled into one unit ?

#5 kyhistorian01

kyhistorian01
  • Members
    • Member ID: 6,492
  • 3,439 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Kentucky

Posted 10 August 2011 - 04:10 AM

After transport, were these pieces assembled into one unit ?



Yes, according to what I read at the MVPA display the vehicle was transported in pieces by a glider or C-47 to a remote airstrip or a landing zone then quickly reassembled for use. Several vehicles were used like this including a version of the 2 1/2 ton truck.

#6 Gregory

Gregory
  • Members
    • Member ID: 75
  • 2,796 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Warsaw, Poland

Posted 10 August 2011 - 04:27 AM

WWII Airborne Transportable vehicles

All vehicles? Both powered and not? If all then it is necessary to mention:

● Adams 11-S towed grader

● CAB-1 LaPlant Choate Pan Scraper

● Case SI Airborne Tractor

● Clarkair Crawler CA-1 Airborne Bulldozer

#7 Gregory

Gregory
  • Members
    • Member ID: 75
  • 2,796 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Warsaw, Poland

Posted 10 August 2011 - 03:04 PM

Flying, Vol. 33 No. 5, November 1943


I hope you will find it interesting in this thread as a wartime look at vehicles and machines carried by the planes or gliders.

Attached Images

  • 1.jpg


#8 Gregory

Gregory
  • Members
    • Member ID: 75
  • 2,796 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Warsaw, Poland

Posted 10 August 2011 - 03:07 PM

Flying, Vol. 33 No. 5, November 1943


... continued

Here you can see the Clarkair Crawler CA-1 airborne bulldozer (upper photo) and the Adams 11-S towed grader (below).

Attached Images

  • 2.jpg


#9 Gregory

Gregory
  • Members
    • Member ID: 75
  • 2,796 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Warsaw, Poland

Posted 10 August 2011 - 03:10 PM

Flying, Vol. 33 No. 5, November 1943


The end of 1943 article under the title of "Troop Carrier Mission".

Attached Images

  • 3.jpg


#10 Gregory

Gregory
  • Members
    • Member ID: 75
  • 2,796 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Warsaw, Poland

Posted 10 August 2011 - 03:54 PM

Yes, according to what I read at the MVPA display the vehicle was transported in pieces by a glider or C-47...

The question is by what glider? The Dodge WC-51 shown above would be too wide for the CG-4A glider. It means that this solution has never been used operationally. On the other hand the CG-10A glider would be able to carry WC-51 normally, in one piece, and no need to disassembly it. I would have to check what about the CG-13A but... only one CG-13A was used operationally during WWII. It confirms that disassembled WC-51 could not be used in real gliderborne assaults -- maybe during the ZI-organized exercises only?

#11 Gregory

Gregory
  • Members
    • Member ID: 75
  • 2,796 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Warsaw, Poland

Posted 11 August 2011 - 12:00 AM

hello
l have airborne GMC CCKW352 , for delivery by C53 airplane split in 2 , front and rear
serial number 313255B1
for dodge shipping in C47

Hi Olivier,

Congratulations. After restoration you will have an interesting and very rare vehicle. By the way -- the C-53 would be unable to carry your CCKW 352. That plane was not for vehicles -- lack of large cargo door and reinforced cargo floor. The C-53 was narrowly focused troop transporter.

But the C-54 was excellent transport plane. It could carry even turretless Locust tank. Below there is the clipping from the Air Tech monthly, Vol. 6 No. 6, June 1945.

Attached Images

  • Air_Tech__Vol._6_No._6__June_1945.jpg


#12 airborne53

airborne53
  • Members
    • Member ID: 1,161
  • 171 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 11 August 2011 - 12:11 AM

yes it's C54
thanks
olivier

#13 Gregory

Gregory
  • Members
    • Member ID: 75
  • 2,796 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Warsaw, Poland

Posted 11 August 2011 - 12:15 AM

One more time the CA-1 Airborne Bulldozer. Below it can be seen in the CBI carried by the 1st Air Commando Group.

And below there is another CA-1 towing Adams 11-S grader. The bulldozer has an inscription "Alabama Kid" on front panel.

Attached Images

  • 1.jpg
  • 2.jpg


#14 Gregory

Gregory
  • Members
    • Member ID: 75
  • 2,796 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Warsaw, Poland

Posted 11 August 2011 - 02:33 AM

There were also WWII parachuted SAS Jeeps, but it would be the American-British thread am not sure if for this forum.

Attached Images

  • 1.jpg


#15 Prof

Prof
  • Members
    • Member ID: 4,089
  • 118 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Annecy, France

Posted 05 March 2012 - 02:08 PM

Hi All,

Converto Airborne trailer?

Converto_Plate_4.jpg

I have the Data plate only. I collect data plates - I have a large number of them, far easier to store than entire vehicles :thumbsup:

Converto_Plate_5.jpg

Detail showing trailer number. I've only just noticed the 8 is stamped upside down!

Best Regards,

Prof

Edited by Prof, 05 March 2012 - 02:09 PM.


#16 J_Andrews

J_Andrews
  • Members
    • Member ID: 2,689
  • 2,881 posts

Posted 05 March 2012 - 06:04 PM

A veteran of Abn Tng Command who worked as an NCO on testing gear once told me that the HQ people for Troop Carrier Command (Stateside) were "obsessed" and "crazy" in persisting in "dreaming up" equipment loads for C-47s and all manner of gliders, resulting in lots of "busted planes" and wrecked equipment. His boss, an officer told him that they really DID know that such vehicles/equipment were too much for C-47s and CG-4As (but had to PROVE it for the benefit of Pentagon big thinkers), and were not totally, hopelessly nuts. BUT they were "hanging their hopes" on the CG-10 glider and C-82 boxcar transport coming into service to lift the heavy loads.

Another impetus was preparing for Operation THURSDAY, the airborne invasion of Burma, where they would obviously need a lot of serious engineer equipment on the ground, pronto.

The magazine article may have been a deliberate DISinformation ploy, planted to mislead the enemy as to what the USAAF and engineers capability was. "Here's a program we KNOW ain't gonna work so well, so let's tell Adolf and Tojo all about it..."

#17 Gregory

Gregory
  • Members
    • Member ID: 75
  • 2,796 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Warsaw, Poland

Posted 20 June 2012 - 01:53 PM

The magazine article may have been a deliberate DISinformation ploy, planted to mislead the enemy as to what the USAAF and engineers capability was. "Here's a program we KNOW ain't gonna work so well, so let's tell Adolf and Tojo all about it..."

Yes, I agree. In battlefield practice, in the frontline zones such a cargo -- as vehicles/machines shown in this article -- was relatively rare on the CG-4As boards and ultrarare in the case of C-47s.


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users


In Memory of Co-Founder GREG MILLS ROBINSON, a.k.a. "Marine-KaBar"
(February 17, 1949 - March 5, 2011)