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WW2 Commissioning Pennant

Started by tthen , Feb 12 2018 06:00 PM

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#1 tthen

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:00 PM

Evening Gents,

I have a few questions regarding the US Navy Commissioning Pennant. Moderators if this is in the wrong place please move to a more appropriate place. So my interest is to obtain a WW2 pennant that would have flown on an LCI (L) during the war. My father was on LCI (L) 950 they made the landing in the invasion of Southern France ( Operation Dragoon). After the war ended in Europe they were ordered to sail to Cold Harbor Alaska to trade their ship to the Soviet Navy For Project Hula. LCI (L) 950 became DS-32 when the soviets took over control. When the ship was decommissioned from the US Navy the commander chose to cut up the Commissioning Pennant and give a piece to each sailor including my dad. I am in possession of that piece, it has a Soviet Navy hat pin stuck in it my dad traded for a pack of Chesterfield cigarettes.

I have been looking for a Pennant on Ebay and my biggest question is were there different sizes depending on the ship size? I see lots of No. 7, and last question in WW2 were the stars stitched on or were there also

the style that look  part of the fabric.  I am watching Ebay # 202122044219 right now but am unsure if this is what fits the bill.

Thank you in advance for any help

 

Tom



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Posted 12 February 2018 - 07:37 PM

I know next to nothing about commissioning pennants. But with that being said here's mine from a late WW2 ship. The stars are sewn on. 

 

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 10:53 PM

That one looks odd in the auction. Then to see that he has others exactly the same makes me nervous. Here is a commissioning pennant that flew aboard CL-64 during her her service (1944-46).

https://flic.kr/p/c1kWom

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:23 AM

In the FWIW department..

 

In mid 1950, the Coast Guard started a test on the best material for use in the commission pennant and CG ensign.  They were evaluating the traditional wool bunting, a nylon / wool material, and an all nylon material..

 

I would think the USN followed the same tests in that same time frame..  Would suspect that WW2 era / pre 1950sh commission pennants would be all wool bunting with sewn construction..



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 08:10 PM

Thanks men, will look for one with sewn stars.



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 01:48 PM

All nylon with printed stars have been in use since the early 1960s. Commission Pennants do come in different lengths, based on the length of the ship. Naval Tactical Publication (NTP-13) has a chart which tells what size flags and pennants are to be used on what length ship.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 06:40 PM

Sigs,

Thanks for wading in on this, I was hoping you would. If I Google (NTP-13) will I find what commission Pennant would have been flown above an LCI during WW2?

Thanks again Steve,

 

Tom



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Posted 04 March 2018 - 08:00 AM

NTP-13 B (1986) shows two sizes for a commission pennant, Size 6 - 6 feet in length and Size 7 - 4 feet.  Not sure if it is the same in WWII, don't have my copy with me..  It also says this about size use:

 

For uniformity, a vessel under 600 feet in length shall display a size 6

command pennant or a size 7 personal flag. Vessels 600 feet or more in length
shall display a size 4 command pennant or size 6 personal flag.

 

Don't know if this helps.



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 06:45 AM

29Navy,

Yes it does Thank you for your reply



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Posted 22 March 2018 - 07:09 AM

Sorry for not coming back. Yes, flag size is determined by length of vessel. So, to know what size flags, need to know length of ship.


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