Pep Posted August 31, 2017 Share #1 Posted August 31, 2017 I was well pleased to receive today this M1904 first aid pouch. It is unaltered and dated 1905. The best part is it came with the original strait hook. Been on the hunt for one of these with original hook for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share #2 Posted August 31, 2017 Hook detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted August 31, 2017 Second item was a wonderful M1910 first pattern canteen. Cost under $60 shipped. Got lucky on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyCanteen Posted August 31, 2017 Share #4 Posted August 31, 2017 Very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armysoldierant1944 Posted August 31, 2017 Share #5 Posted August 31, 2017 Good deal ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted September 1, 2017 Share #6 Posted September 1, 2017 Great pick ups Pep and you did get very lucky on the early 1910 Canteen. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted September 1, 2017 Share #7 Posted September 1, 2017 Pep I hope you don't mind me showing you my 1904 Pouch. Thanks. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted September 1, 2017 Pep I hope you don't mind me showing you my 1904 Pouch. Thanks. Ronnie That is a nice clean one. I have a 1904 dated one but it came with the M1907 hook. I was going to steal the hook from my latest to use on the earlier dated one, but when it came in I liked the way it displayed better. In the mean time i used some hobby brass wire to make a m1904 strait hook. from your picture it looks like you did the same or is that hook original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheskett Posted September 1, 2017 Share #9 Posted September 1, 2017 Those are both great examples. I too lack a 1904 pouch with the original hook. Someday I will come across one. Thanks for sharing Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted September 1, 2017 Final resting place in my collection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted September 1, 2017 Share #11 Posted September 1, 2017 Well now Pep I do 't know if my wire is original. My pouch was purchased this way at the SOS several years ago. I assumed it was right. But now I really don't know. I would agree with you.....leave the hook in yours because that is a great Pouch. I really like the unit numbers on it. Thanks. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share #12 Posted September 1, 2017 Well now Pep I do 't know if my wire is original. My pouch was purchased this way at the SOS several years ago. I assumed it was right. But now I really don't know. I would agree with you.....leave the hook in yours because that is a great Pouch. I really like the unit numbers on it. Thanks. Ronnie Im more than likely wrong and that one is original. It just looked close to the one I did... Compared to the latest one I got my repro is smaller gage wire and wrong color and geometry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted September 1, 2017 Share #13 Posted September 1, 2017 Final resting place in my collection... 20170901_090950.jpg Pep that's an outstanding group.Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted September 1, 2017 Share #14 Posted September 1, 2017 Double Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted September 3, 2017 Share #15 Posted September 3, 2017 Pep in post #10 tell me about the middle pouch and the purpose of the eyelets below the male portion of the snaps. Thanks. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share #16 Posted September 3, 2017 Pep in post #10 tell me about the middle pouch and the purpose of the eyelets below the male portion of the snaps. Thanks. Ronnie I have read an article in a military historical magazine or journal that stated it is a modified M1904 pouch. The modification was done in the 1909 time frame to a large number of manufactured M1904 pouches in stores to accommodate the new larger M1907 first aid packet. The eyelets are where the male studs used to be. By moving the male studs up a fraction the M1904 pouch could hold the new M1907 packet. The eyelets kept the pouch from fraying. At least this is what I remember... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted September 3, 2017 Share #17 Posted September 3, 2017 Interesting and good info. Thank you Pep. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheskett Posted September 4, 2017 Share #18 Posted September 4, 2017 If I am correct the original 1904 hooks had the patent number and date on the long section between the bends. I too have the 1904 pouch with 1907 hook. Someday I will find the elusive hook. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share #19 Posted September 4, 2017 If I am correct the original 1904 hooks had the patent number and date on the long section between the bends. I too have the 1904 pouch with 1907 hook. Someday I will find the elusive hook. Bob I do not see a patent date on this one nor have i seen one on a M1904 strait hook. They are dated on the early Hoff pouch...The dimensions and geometry of the hook is slightly different... ref thread: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/226524-first-aid-pouch-very-early-with-variation/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheskett Posted September 4, 2017 Share #20 Posted September 4, 2017 That must have been where I spotted the stamping. What is the difference between the Hoff pouches and the 1904 model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share #21 Posted September 4, 2017 That must have been where I spotted the stamping. What is the difference between the Hoff pouches and the 1904 model? The most relevant difference is that the Hoff pouch hook is 11/16" wider. (approx.) The pouches are made of different material and construction.. Pic for ref... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted September 4, 2017 Share #22 Posted September 4, 2017 The Hoff Pouch is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheskett Posted September 4, 2017 Share #23 Posted September 4, 2017 Thanks very much....Another thing on my want list:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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