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#1 Normandy1944

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 04:00 AM

Since I've got a new sort of hobby (working as an amateur military advisor for video games) I'm digging a lot into archives, museums databases, books et cetera for reference pictures. 

 

I came across some interesting pictures from American weapons in use.

The ones using them are not the one you'd expect though. 

 

Enjoy ;)

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 04:01 AM

And some more

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#3 Normandy1944

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 04:02 AM

And the last one.

 

Feel free to post some more if you have them.tommy20guns.jpg



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Posted 21 April 2016 - 04:46 AM

Well that is an interesting twist.  Thanks for sharing.



#5 Garandomatic

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 04:48 AM

Who WOULDN'T want a Thompson???



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Posted 21 April 2016 - 04:59 AM

Who WOULDN'T want a Thompson???

 

 

Hehehe so true.

 

 

Fascinating photos, and ones I've never seen before! Wonder if the same thing can be found in the PTO?

 

Closest to this I've seen is the B-17 painted over with German markings lol...

 

 

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 05:09 AM

I'm still waiting to see evidence of German infantry actually carrying garands in combat.....They tended to like lightweight weapons that had high rates of fire....Hence you see them carrying the US carbines....Bodes



#8 Normandy1944

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 05:24 AM

I'm still waiting to see evidence of German infantry actually carrying garands in combat.....They tended to like lightweight weapons that had high rates of fire....Hence you see them carrying the US carbines....Bodes

 

Here's one from after the battle.

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Edited by Normandy1944, 21 April 2016 - 05:25 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2016 - 05:28 AM

A few more.

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 05:41 AM

Heavy weapons were captured too.

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 05:42 AM

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 05:55 AM

The Germans even produced their own manuals for use with captured weapons and most were given German military designations.  I was trying to find what they called the Thompson and discovered this list:

 

7.62 mm Selbstladegewehr 257 ® Former russian AVS-36
7.62 mm Selbstladegewehr 258 ® Former russian SVT-38
7.62 mm Selbstladegewehr 259 ® Former russian SVT-40
7.62 mm Selbstladegewehr 251 (a) Former American Rifle, caliber.30, M1 (Garand)
7.62 mm Selbstladegewehr 310 (f) Former french Fusil Mitrailleur RSC Mle 1918
7.62 mm Selbstladekarabiner 455 (a) Former American Carbine, Caliber.30, M1 G-221/223 (Jugoslavians) War reparations after WWI
G-299 or 98 (Polish) idem
Gewehr 24 (Czech) build under licence
Gew 29/40 (Austrian)
Gew 262 (Belgian)
Gew 289 (Polish)
Gew 290/298 (Jugoslavian) build under licence
Gewehr 98/40 (original 8 mm Huzagol 35M from Hungary)
Gewehr 33/40 (manufactured in CZ Brno or Waffenfäbrik Brno)
Gewehr 98 (Austrian Repetier Gewehr 1895 in 8 mm)
Gewehr 306 (Greek, Italian or jugoslavian G-9
Gewehr 294 (ex G-98 recalibrated by the jugoslavians to 7.9)
Gewehr 33 (Musketon vz 16/33 the standard Czech Army carbine)
Gewehr 209 (Italian Fucille modelo 38 in 6.5 mm)
Gewehr 210 (Italian Fucille modelo 41 in 6.5 mm)
Gewehr 211 (Dutch Geweer M95 Manlicher in 6.5 mm)
Gewehr 214 (Italian Fucille modelo 91 in 6.5 mm)
Gewehr 215 (Greek mannlicher-Schönauer Model 03/14 in 6.5 mm)
Gewehr 231 (Italian Fucille modelo 38 in 7.35 mm)
Gewehr 241 (French model 07-15 M34 in 7.5 mm)
Gewehr 242 (French MAS-36 in 7.5 mm)
Gewehr 249 (American Springfield M 1903 in 7.62)
Gewehr 252 (Russian Mosin M-91 in 7.62 and Jugoslavian Puska M91R)
Gewehr 254 (Russian Mosin M-91/30 in 7.62)
Gewehr 256 (Russian Mosin M-91/30 in 7.62 with 3.5 telescope)
Gewehr 261 (Belgian Fusil 1889 Mauser in 7.65 mm)
Gewehr 263 (Belgian Fusil 36 Mauser in 7.65 mm)
Gewehr 281 (British Rifle Nº 1 Mk III in 7.7 mm)
Gewehr 301 (French model 1886 transforme 1893 in 8 mm)
Gewehr 302 (French model 1907 transforme 1915 in 8 mm)
Gewehr 303 (French model 1886 racroche 1935 in 8 mm)
Gewehr 304 (French model 1916 in 8 mm)
Gewehr 305 (French model 1907 dit colonial in 8 mm)
Gewehr 307 (Jugoslavian Puska 8 mm M93)
Gewehr 311 (Danish Gevaer m/89-10 in 8 mm)
Karabiner 408 (Italian Moschetto modello 38 in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 409 (Italian Moschetto modello 91 for cavalry in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 410 (Italian Moschetto m 91 for technical troops in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 411 (Dutch Karabijn aantal 1 in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 412 (Dutch Karabijn aantal 1 OM en NM in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 413 (Dutch Karabijn aantal 3 OM en NM in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 414 (Dutch Karabijn aantal 4 OM en NM in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 411(n) (Norwegian Kavalerikarabin m/1894 in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 412(n) (Norwegian Kavalerikarabin m/1895 in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 413(n) (Norwegian Ingenieorkarabin m/1904 in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 414(n) (Norwegian Artillerikarabin m/1907 in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 415 (Norwegian Karabin m/1912 in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 416 (Italian moschetto modello 91/24 in 6.5 mm)
Karabiner 430 (Italian moschetto modello 38 in 7.35 mm)
Karabiner 451 (Belgian Carabine 1889 in 7.65 mm)
Karabiner 453 (Belgian Carabine 1916 in 7.65 mm)
Karabiner 454 (Russian Karabin obr 1938 g in 7.62 mm)
Karabiner 457 (Russian Karabin obr 1944 g in 7.62 mm)
Karabiner 494 (Greek S-95)
Karabiner 497 (Polish Karabinek 91/98/25 in 7.92 mm [ex Mosin])
Karabiner 505 (Italian or jugoslavian S-95)
Karabiner 506/1 (Danish Fodfolkskarabin m/89-24 in 8 mm)
Karabiner 506/2 (Danish Artilleriekarabin m/89-24 in 8 mm)
Karabiner 506/3 (Danish Ingeniorkarabin m/89-24 in 8 mm)
Karabiner 506/1 (Danish Rytterkarabin m/89-24 in 8 mm)
Karabiner 551 (French model 1890 in 8 mm)
Karabiner 552 (French model 1892 in 8 mm)
Karabiner 553 (French model 1916 in 8 mm)
Stützen 95 (Austrian Repetier-Stützen-Gewehr m-1895 in 8 mm)
MP.704(f) (ex-Frence PM Vollmar Erma)
MP.715® (PPD 34/38)
MP.716® (PPD 40)
MP.717® (PPSh 41)
MP.719 ® Captured Russian PPs-43 MP.722 (f) Captured French Mas-38
MP.738 (i) Beretta model 38/42
MP.739(i) (Beretta Mo.938)
MP.740(B) (ex-Belgian Mi.Schmeisser-Bayard Mle.34)
MP.741 (d) (The license built Bergman made in Denmark)
MP.746 (d) (Madsen M-42)
MP.749 (e) Captured British Sten Mk II
MP.751 (e) Captured British Sten Mk II with silencer
MP.760 (e)/(j)/(a)/® Captured Thompson M-28 from British, US, Yugoslavian or Soviet)
MP.761 (f) Captured Thompson M-1921 purchased by France in 1939



The IMG 28 (p) was the designation given for the Polish licensed M1918 Browning Automatic Rifles (BAR) aka vz. 1928



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Posted 21 April 2016 - 05:58 AM

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Interesting pic,  neat to see the sealer on the rocket.



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Posted 21 April 2016 - 05:59 AM

The Heer soldier on the left holding the M1A1 Bazooka has captured Allied parachute material fashioned over his helmet! :huh:



#15 Normandy1944

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 06:02 AM

And on to some armour.

 

 

 

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 06:04 AM

And finally planes.

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 06:05 AM

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 06:06 AM

 

 

Hehehe so true.

 

 

Fascinating photos, and ones I've never seen before! Wonder if the same thing can be found in the PTO?

 

Closest to this I've seen is the B-17 painted over with German markings lol...

 

 

VFG

 

Here's some captured American armour by the Japanese

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 07:30 AM

Very nice topic! BTW the most interesting "beute waffen" I've seen so far was M1A1 carbine (special version for paratroopers with folding stock) found few years ago on formed German positions on eastern front ( I don't remember if it was western Poland or eastern Germany). M1 Carbines weren't sent to USSR as part od Lend-Lease programme so it was probably taken by German soldier who was stationed in France or Holland for some time and later was sent to eastern front.

Edited by Corpsman_1941, 21 April 2016 - 07:33 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2016 - 11:35 AM

 

Here's some captured American armour by the Japanese

 

Damn! Thank you for posting that. Did that photo have a location listed??? Those were used very sparingly by the Marines only up until Saipan...



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Posted 21 April 2016 - 12:00 PM

 

Damn! Thank you for posting that. Did that photo have a location listed??? Those were used very sparingly by the Marines only up until Saipan...

 

I believe it was the Philippines, 1942



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Posted 21 April 2016 - 12:01 PM

It seems I'm addicted to these kind of photos, as I spend searching for more.

 

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 12:03 PM

The German B17

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 12:04 PM

And the P38

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 12:06 PM

Back to German armour.

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