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#51 Tim B

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 09:43 AM

I thought I would bump this thread up again with some new material.
 
Recently another member (Andy) asked the question in another thread:  http://www.usmilitar...-what-and-when/

 

Turns out the device was a later, circa 1947, issue USC&GS CPO cap device made by Gemsco.  I would say this model is a carry over of the design shown by Wharf in post #'s 28/29 above and probably the last style used by Coast & Geodetic Survey chief petty officers when devices were changed to mount to cap bands.

 

Here's one of the examples I've added, courtesy of Andy!

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 09:58 AM

Similar markings with the "Gemsco Acid Test" on the anchor shank, "1/20 10K GF" on the lower fluke, and barely visible on the rim of the central roundel, "Sterling" upside down in the photo.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 10:44 AM

Fabulous photography Tim, and a rarely seen piece too



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Posted 08 August 2016 - 12:07 AM

Mahalo Craig!

 

Pinch one of those beach wahine for me! ;)



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Posted 17 September 2016 - 04:32 PM

I just scored this one off Ebay.  Ironically, I found this thread through an internet search outside of the Forum while researching it.  IMO there are too many sub categories for metal insignia on here and things go un-noticed (this did with me).  

 

Anyway, based on the rope (not chain and having locking catch - not earlier open catch), I'd guess my example is late 30's/very early WW2 era.

 

Some late thoughts on the insignia that originally started this thread.  Having the earlier rope (rather than later chain) with a screwback, doesn't make sense to me.  The black hatband backing for chief insignia didn't come along until 1949 at which point, screwback insignia was needed - pin backs didn't work well.    And I believe the chain was introduced in 1941. So, I'm thinking the combination of the two shouldn't exist on the same piece of insignia.

 

 The fact that the badge that started this thread is associated with The Pasquale Co is interesting to me.  Based on some circumstantial evidence that I have observed over the years, I theorize this company was restriking obsolete insignia in the 1950's/60's.  Examples are the gold USAAF Flight Surgeon wings, rarer style WW1 US Army officer and enlisted branch insignia, etc. All are high quality. This could also explain the incorrect reversed center device colors on the insignia posted in this thread - they were just cranking out stuff, not closely following regs.  I suspect this one may be one more example of one of their restrikes.  Just my theory - I can't provide videotape of them being made.  

 

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I came across this one yesterday at the ASMIC convention and wondered if this might be one of those you suspect.  I could not see any trace of silver ever being applied to the disc.  The quality of construction, patina, and "feel" says it's old, but I just didn't feel comfortable enough to drop the cash on it.  IMO, if a maker like Pasquale was putting out restrikes, then it would have been of a more modern pattern with less pieces like this one.

 

Seller swears it came from a guy's collection in the late 1940's but...who really knows.
 

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 06:02 PM

Here's a cap badge I found recently - I was able to quickly identify it from this thread!

 

 

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