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#1 collector

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 10:07 AM

I will post pics of two 1911 and 1911A1 Arsenal refurbishments, and hope other members post pictures of theirs.

I find them interesting, not only because I have a couple, but because of their often long history of usage.

Most seem to be of mixed parts and manufacturers, due to the fact that when disassembled, the parts were thrown into a basket for cleaning and refinishing, and then reassembled without regard to manufacturer. 

Also I've seen various colors of Parkerization, even within the two varieties I know about, zinc and manganese.

You can see the variation in the two examples I will post pics of. I believe the 1911 is manganese, and the 1911A1 zinc.


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Posted 28 June 2015 - 10:13 AM

Here are my examples;  1918 Remington UMC with Colt slide, and a 1942 Colt with Remington Rand slide.

Note the Remington UMC is a darker Parkerization.

The Remington UMV has the AA mark for Augusta Arsena on the left side, the Colt has the OG for Ogden Arsenal on the right side.

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 10:14 AM

other side

 

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 10:16 AM

arsenal marks,

also note the long trigger on the RemUMC.

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 11:44 AM

Beautiful pistols!! I also share your appreciation for a true arsenal refurb pistol. Most collectors shy away from these but I actually like them!!

I have a 1918 Colt M1911 that was refurbed by two different arsenals. It was first refurbed by the Augusta Arsenal, then it was refurbed by the Rock Island Arsenal and stamped by Frank Krack. It is one of my favorite pistols and I can only imagine the places it could have been.

Thanks for sharing those great pistols!!!!!

Chris

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 12:08 PM

Thanks Chris,

If you can, please post pictures of your 1911!

With closeups of the marks if possible?

David



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Posted 28 June 2015 - 12:18 PM

Here is my 1918 Colt. My camera is substandard so I apologize for the bad pics. This side has the RIA mark.

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 12:20 PM

The other side has the "AA" Mark. I really like the old returns a lot!!!!!

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 12:24 PM

Here is a better shot of the WW2 era RIA FK mark.

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 04:38 PM

Great pistols!!

I have an all original 1918 with no arsenal rework.

I really want a second 1911 and I was thinking of a nice 1918 or so colt reworked for World War 2 like the ones posted here.

Looking forward to more on this thread.

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 05:52 PM

Okay, here's my arsenal rebuild by Rock Island Arsenal.  The only thing they did was change the grip safety, the grips, and possibly the thumb safety.  Not refinished, and all other parts are RR.

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 05:52 PM

Other side:

 

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 05:54 PM

Chris and thorin6,

Thanks for the pics, yours have both frame and slide by the same maker, looks great.

Love the double (triple?) marks on yours Chris.

I too hope others post theirs. So now we have examples of OG, AA, and RIA.

David


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Posted 03 July 2015 - 05:38 AM

Mine is a 1943 Remington Rand that at some point went through Rock Island Arsenal. The interesting thing about this pistol is that it still retains the original finish and the correct parts configuration for the year of manufacture, so most likely it was inspected instead of rebuilt. Pistols were stamped for both inspections and rebuilds, so unmolested original pistols that exhibit arsenal stamps are still seen from time to time.

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 05:39 AM

Another pic, RIA stamp.

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 12:18 PM

nice one, thanks for posting!



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Posted 07 July 2015 - 03:06 PM

I had this beauty in my hands and came close to buying it. Great provenance too. I bought a nice Remington Rand instead. It was a tough choice but I wanted a actual WWII production gun.

 

http://www.gunbroker...?Item=493198703

 

If anyone is interested please PM me.



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Posted 07 July 2015 - 05:18 PM

Here is my Colt 1918 Transitional rebuild? has had the frame clearance cuts for the trigger to the m1911A1 frame mix of blued and parkerized parts. No rebuild Arsenal stamps

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 05:20 PM

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 05:21 PM

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 06:53 PM

Keep them coming!



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Posted 27 July 2015 - 09:37 AM

Here is my Colt 1918 Transitional rebuild? has had the frame clearance cuts for the trigger to the m1911A1 frame mix of blued and parkerized parts. No rebuild Arsenal stamps

 

i think  yours is more a case of some one  bought it and swapped some parts in it,     after is stopped being Military property

 

very common thing



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Posted 05 August 2015 - 04:04 PM

I would like to see pictures of a rebuilt Union Switch & Signal. Anybody has some pictures to share?



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Posted 06 August 2015 - 12:10 PM

My 1943 Remington with SA re-arsenal marks:

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Posted 06 August 2015 - 04:43 PM

My 1943 Remington with SA re-arsenal marks:

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That is indeed a very nice pistol. 

For some unknown reason I have not seen many pistols rebuilt by Springfield Armory. Maybe other members have seen them more often than me.




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