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#1 Brig

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 01:04 PM

Picked this up at a flea market for a buck. Same dimensions as the collar emblem, kind of shiny finish. However, the back has no pins or posts, and only a bit of sodder on the back of the bird. Was wondering if this is an unfinished example, part of a sweetheart piece, or something reproduced for use completely post war (like a picture frame or other moto item as bought from Sgt Grit). Has a pierced anchor

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 08:51 PM

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 10:21 PM

Tim,

Sometimes, these emblems that have never had screwposts or clutch studs come along. Because yours and my silver emblem with gold continents and anchor emblem are port side emblems, maybe they were sweetheart or attached to something? I haven't figured that one out yet. I haven't encountered any sweetheart or manufactured knick-knacks with actual regulation size emblems on them, so they are pretty much of a mystery.

I do have a starboard side bird that has never had a screwpost applied, so one would think it should have ended up as a collar emblem. Who knows? I would guess maybe just unfinished emblems that someone snuck home from the factory? The only reason I kept the two I have is because they have the rather scarce tall legged, bold eagles that are always attributed and connected to early WWII Marines.

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 06:44 AM

I ran into an M37 H&H cover emblem at the show last weekend that was also without a trace of ever having a screwpiece, which leads me to think factory unfinished... http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/think.gif

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 09:39 AM

Tim, I suspect you and Gary are dead on target. Easy to presume these type of unfinished emblems escaped the factory floor before they could be finished. Here are some parts that someone decided to take home a souvenir. Rest of photos are located here: http://www.usmilitar...?showtopic=8441

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 11:07 AM

ooo...interesting. thanks http://www.usmilitar...tyle_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 05:20 PM

Tim, I suspect you and Gary are dead on target. Easy to presume these type of unfinished emblems escaped the factory floor before they could be finished. Here are some parts that someone decided to take home a souvenir. Rest of photos are located here: http://www.usmilitar...?showtopic=8441


Darrell,

I just love those unfinished emblems! Couldn't remember if they belonged to you or Bob, so didn't mention them last night. Never get tired of looking at them!

I acquired some unfinished Tracer and AP bullets and cases from the Denver Arsenal that a lady here brought home as souvenirs during the war. My grandmother did the same thing with radio crystals she had the job of grinding, so why not EGA's? The only logical explanation for these unfinished emblems that I can think of would be "pocket souvenirs" from work?

s/f, Gary

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 07:12 AM

Here's another one I recently added to the collection. I love these interesting pieces...

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 09:14 AM

What an interesting find! No doubt a keeper and wonderful conversation piece. BTW, it has all the right appearence of the hallmarked H&H emblems from the period.

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 07:46 AM

minus the pierced anchor, of course, however it hasn't been finished

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 09:41 AM

here's an interesting piece. an enlisted 1916 model, that had the head and part of teh anchor ring cut off when machine stamped. Upon inspection, it was probably taken home as a souveneir rather than being discarded...very interesting addition I just got in for about ten bucks

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 09:47 AM

Neat piece! Bobgee

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 05:11 AM

Undoubtedly a most interesting piece. One can wonder for what reason and or why this piece exists? Conventional emblems of the WW1 period were die stamped and show the distinct extrusion and file marks marks along the various edges of the emblem to give it a finished appearance. This shows all sign of what is a stamped piece, but, certainly this could not have been considered a piece ready for finishing? There is just to much area that would need to be removed and require lots of time to "hand finish"? Perhaps a test strike of a new die? Perhaps some sort of jobbers sample? Certainly a very interesting conversation piece for EGA collectors! s/f Darrell

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 06:11 AM

perhaps it was intended to see if the machine was lined up after being set up, and, obviously, it was not on this particular strike

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 01:51 PM

another one of these bold, unmarked post-WWII H&H enlisted pieces that never had a screwpost. Similar to the ones Gary posted. nice example

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 04:23 AM

You know - when I see these... I am beginning to suspect many were sold for sweetheart pins, lighters and such?

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 07:03 PM

I find this topic to be very interesting. sadly there's not much to add to it. However, I was fortunate enough to stumble upon this unfinished enlisted M-20 cover emblem, similar unfinished to the M-18 posted above. this one, however, is stamped correctly...

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 07:14 AM

Yet another classic example... must have been a result of testing new dies or design?

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 07:29 PM

maybe to see if the emblem was aligned? or just fell off the machine and was picked up later

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 03:07 PM

matched pair of tilted M37...no finish applied, and no screwposts

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 07:56 AM

these modern unfinished strikes brought a surprising $60...the most I've seen for these types of oddities...I didn't win unfortunately due to other committments

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 11:51 AM

Here is an unfinished set my Uncle brought back from China in the late 30's.
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Posted 06 December 2015 - 10:58 AM

Been years since I picked up an unfinished emblem. Picked this one up a few months ago, later realized it to likely be by Tiffany's & Co. That fact sure made my wife look twice

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 08:43 AM

Been years since I picked up an unfinished emblem. Picked this one up a few months ago, later realized it to likely be by Tiffany's & Co. That fact sure made my wife look twice

 

Brig,

As I mentioned in Eric Queen's post of his father's EGAs, this is an exact match to my two Tiffany emblems.

 

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 02:48 PM

 

Brig,

As I mentioned in Eric Queen's post of his father's EGAs, this is an exact match to my two Tiffany emblems.

 

Mike
 

That's where I made the connection eventually...I had overlooked the reply at first and later looked into your old topic on the Tiffanys emblems




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