i found the collar in 2011 June, on the Saint-Mihiel battlefield , with a metal detector
oak , from France
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I see that disc most commonly associated on uniforms of the 5th Brigade. The 4th Brigade did not wear these during combat at St Mihiel. The condition is still pretty hard to believe. Must have been dropped by a "touring" 5th Brigade Marine in 1919. I have never seen a painted bronze object look this good after 90+ years in the ground. Can we see the back side and post and more shotsof your ground dug stuff?
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There is no known documentation on USMC collar disc procurement or supply. Collar discs were authorized for Marines in late August 1918, and procurement occurred in an unknown timespan shortly after in both France and America. I am guessing a matter of weeks. September is a possibility that discs existed, however in all of the material I have handled, I have yet to see photos of 5th or 6th Regiment Marines wearing collar discs during St Mihiel. In all of the material I have handled, collar discs start to show up in photos of 5th Brigade Marines around November, which would suggest they obtained them in France. I have photos of 5th and 6th Regiment Marines wearing overcoat buttons on their collar in Germany in Dec 1918 and Jan 1919, so I believe supply was slow to reach occupation units.
I think that the USMC collar discs, which are very rare on battlefields, were brought to France by the replacement Marines from Saint-Mihiel fights. Does anyone have any information on the supply of the USMC collar during the fights in France ?
Posted 18 September 2011 - 10:11 PM
... September is a possibility that discs existed, however in all of the material I have handled, I have yet to see photos of 5th or 6th Regiment Marines wearing collar discs during St Mihiel...
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