BlackJoker Posted October 25, 2014 Share #1 Posted October 25, 2014 Hello everyone! I present to you my rifle Model of 1917. It's a Remington made, February 1918. the rifle butt has written: N.S.T.C. ________C.O.T.C.________191 The only information I have are these: N.S.T.C. National Service Training Command C.O.T.C. Canadian Officers Training Corps Then after the Great War, it was used as a center of education Canadian relief for officers, but the 191 is what you identify? the number of the company or regiment? Or it could be the "rack number"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogface72 Posted November 3, 2014 Share #2 Posted November 3, 2014 Very nice I have not seen one with the Canadian markings on the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promo Posted November 11, 2014 Share #3 Posted November 11, 2014 The markings on the barrel are modern German firing proofs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogface72 Posted November 13, 2014 Share #4 Posted November 13, 2014 Promo - School us please. I'm ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted November 20, 2014 The markings on the barrel are modern German firing proofs. What do you mean? Those near 2AB ? it is possible that he began his civilian life in Germany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promo Posted December 16, 2014 Share #6 Posted December 16, 2014 Sorry, haven't been here for a long time. The eagle is the German sign for Nitro powder, the flag is the symbol of the firing proof house in Mellrichstadt, Germany (there are seven firing proof houses in Germany). The "2AB" means when the firing proof was done. The "2" refers to the month, while the letters are coded for the years as follows: A = 0B = 1C = 2D = 3E = 4F = 5G = 6H = 7I = 8K = 9 This means that 2AB equals February 01, referring to 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogface72 Posted December 18, 2014 Share #7 Posted December 18, 2014 Any idea/theory as to why these were in Germany? Post-War issue for police, like the M1 Carbine? I'm being serious, I think the M1917 was issued to Dutch units during WWII.... but there isn't much literature out there because they were just looked over after 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promo Posted December 21, 2014 Share #8 Posted December 21, 2014 Can you add a picture of the front sight? Or is it a blade, or a pin? Danish gunsmiths sometimes changed the front sight to a pin. I currently don't have the totals in my mind, but I believe it was around 30.000 M1917 rifles, which were given to Denmark after WWII from Canada. Some were first given to Norway, then later passed on to Denmark. Common thing is, they were from Canada and many of them still had the markings on it. So my suggestion is, that it's probably one of these since big German dealers purchased large quantities of these rifles from Denmark and sold them to shooters in Germany. If there is somewhere a "HEGE" or "FWW" (written top to bottom) marking on the rifle, it was sold off by large German dealers. If not, it could also be someone in Germany had it. And for not being a collector or a dealer, you need to have a firing proof on your rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton67 Posted December 21, 2014 Share #9 Posted December 21, 2014 Is it all Remington parts rifle? Is the bolt marked "R" also? Many of these you find are mixmasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted August 10, 2017 At a distance of a long time, I reply apologizing for the long delay. In short I will post some photos of some markings presents on the top of the receiver, To ask if you know which country they belonged to. I'm sorry but I have some problem to post image... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share #11 Posted August 10, 2017 There are markings both on the receiver and on the back to the right of the bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share #12 Posted August 11, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted August 11, 2017 Does anyone knows who they marks belong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted August 11, 2017 The bolt has the same serial number of the receiver, it's marked with a little ''E'' and a big ''W''. Maybe it's made by Eddyston, and repair by Winchester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share #15 Posted August 11, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share #16 Posted August 12, 2017 Could be the Eagles Head Inspection Mark ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted August 12, 2017 Share #17 Posted August 12, 2017 eagles head is inspectors marks. you may have a rebuilt item which is very common on ww1-2 guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share #18 Posted August 13, 2017 Thanks for your reply. What can you tell me about this mark under the barrel? I add a pic of the front sight, it's a pin. So was it altered during his civil life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share #19 Posted August 13, 2017 The stock is still made by Remington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1Garandy Posted August 13, 2017 Share #20 Posted August 13, 2017 With regard to your front sight, the Danes were known for that style front sight blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share #21 Posted August 13, 2017 With regard to your front sight, the Danes were known for that style front sight blade. Thanks for your reply. This should say that this rifle has served in Denmark after the WW2, and later was exported to germany. In the end, come to Italy. Could be right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1Garandy Posted August 14, 2017 Share #22 Posted August 14, 2017 That is possible (maybe even likely), but it is also possible that a civilian owner somewhere along the line may have changed or replaced the front sight blade to the unit currently installed if it was the only one he or she could find locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share #23 Posted August 14, 2017 That is possible (maybe even likely), but it is also possible that a civilian owner somewhere along the line may have changed or replaced the front sight blade to the unit currently installed if it was the only one he or she could find locally. Understood, so there are the same possibilities. You can tell me what these numbers refer to the right of the receiver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1Garandy Posted August 15, 2017 Share #24 Posted August 15, 2017 I'm afraid I have no idea what that four digit number is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJoker Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share #25 Posted September 16, 2017 Does anyone know which Carry Case is in use for this rifle in WW1 and in WW2 ? I suppose it was different to 1903 and SMLE \ Mk4 cary case...'17 is too long..- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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