Mismatched colors of webbing
Posted 25 January 2007 - 12:58 PM
I just read Bilko's post on 'Carbine & Pistol Pouches', in post #19 of that topic, he wonders about a pouch being made in different colors of material and the reasons for that.
The M1943 shovel cover I am showing was made by the Jersey Quartermaster Depot in 1945, it is made with four different colors of material, the Army appears not to give a damn about matching colors, but sixty years on the re-enactors do.
I have hung onto this particular M1943 shovel cover for years, as I love showing it to all the guys that want matching color webbing, the whole caboodle, the suspenders, belt, water bottle, first aid, musette etc etc. I want to know why they think that it should all match when it was made by different manufacturers, at different dates, with different rolls of material, dyed in different vats. I have in the past had whole bunches of equipment in quantity, sometimes even the same item by the same manufacturer has color variations as they have started new rolls of material, it was not a perfect science dying material. Also with the thousands and sometime millions of items being made and their expected lifespan it was not important. The expected lifespan of a Jeep was only three months, so what life did they expect on webbing.
When all the new style M1943 designated items were designed they were designed in 'O.D. Green', 'Tan' was no longer a desired color. M1943 shovel covers technically should not exist and all the first patterns dated 1943 generally prove that. However some 'tan' ones do appear but generally with a 1944 or 1945 date. I don't think that a unit, a squad, a platoon would have all been identically dressed even if they had just walked out of the supply store. Certainly the shovel cover shown above would not have thousand of duplicates out there.
p.s. Try reading the web-page of the reproduction manufacturer 'At The Front' on this little subject of color.
Posted 25 January 2007 - 01:16 PM
I always liked those lower two FA Pouches.
Posted 25 January 2007 - 01:30 PM
Posted 25 January 2007 - 01:35 PM
Posted 17 April 2007 - 10:09 AM
Thanks for your offer to build up a bunch of mis-match until we could dress a guy up, that would be fun to see what the finish would look like.
I may add for this guy my three-tone canteen cover manufactured in 1945 by the JQMD.
Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:06 AM
This is a mismatched left and right side. The pockets are close to the same color on both sides but the flaps are different colors giving a 3 tone effect.
Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:10 AM
Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:52 AM
Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:09 AM
Here's my two-tone example:
Here's the exact same pouch when it was mint....mustard tan and green. I have a second one of these faded to look similar to yours. It's very "salty" looking and I got it mounted on the stock of my M1 Carbine. Later BOYT production of these USMC pouches were solid green.
Posted 18 April 2007 - 09:59 AM
Posted 18 April 2007 - 11:22 AM
Posted 31 January 2008 - 11:38 AM
For our colorful soldier we create I may add one more two-tone canteen, a product of the Bradley-Goodrich Co. of 1942.
Would you allow a 1945 musette?
Posted 31 January 2008 - 05:36 PM
Posted 22 June 2009 - 03:36 PM
Here is an M1923 Cartridge Belt made by D.M. Shoe Co. in 1943, O.D. #7 with an O.D. #3 back panel on both sides. The wire cutter pouch is tan on the outside, but O.D. #7 on the underside; the M1936 Suspenders are by Varied, also dated '43. In fact, the only things not made in '43 on this rig are the canteen cover, which is a "Gates Co. '44", and the cutter pouch- "Lee Co. '44".
Edited by 'Flage Guy, 22 June 2009 - 03:41 PM.
Posted 22 June 2009 - 03:43 PM
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 03:54 PM
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 04:00 PM
I've got some other '43-'44 dated belts and other web which have little or no light O.D./tan components on them- have to get some shots and develop them to continue the fight of the O.D. #7 Underground...Speaking Truth to Khaki Fascism...
Edited by 'Flage Guy, 22 June 2009 - 04:05 PM.
Posted 22 June 2009 - 04:44 PM
Posted 22 June 2009 - 05:09 PM
Jim, thanks for posting the mismatched gear here. It is a great selection. It should give the Khaki Nazis nightmares when ever they dare to look at this thread.
Much obliged, Craig :thumbsup: I remember reading this thread some time ago, and really getting a kick out of it...thanks for the reminder! Like I said, I have a bunch more of this stuff- just gotta get the pics prepared and up on the computer. Until then, keep making a stand against the Khakishirts
Posted 21 October 2009 - 10:04 AM
So I just wanted to say thanks for showing all your two or even three tone kit, nice to see it all. :thumbsup:
Cheers ( Lewis )
Posted 22 October 2009 - 05:38 PM
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