Good Evening -

Hoping someone here can help identify a couple different types of rounds found recently at a WW2 era training rifle range. This range was only in use from 1935 to 1944. 
 

In the first photo below the two different types of rounds are shown next to a couple 30 cal and 30-06 rounds found at the same location for reference sack. 
 

any thoughts or ideas what these might be?  I’m at a loss. 

They look like 38 caliber wadcutters which were flat nosed bullets primarily used to punch clean holes in paper targets.

Agreed. Here's a picture I snatched off the internet.

You guys are rock starts.  Much appreciated.  Any thoughts on the ones listed #1?   These appear to have round noses and a distinctive slit. 38 special as well, just not wadcutters?  They appear to be very similar in diameter but I haven’t broken out the calipers yet. 

They appear to be regular round nose 38 (special) caliber bullets probably 158 to 160 grain lead.

Thanks again guys.  Saved the day.  

On 4/12/2024 at 7:32 PM, Airborne506th said:

You guys are rock starts.  Much appreciated.  Any thoughts on the ones listed #1?   These appear to have round noses and a distinctive slit. 38 special as well, just not wadcutters?  They appear to be very similar in diameter but I haven’t broken out the calipers yet. 

Disregard, I misread something.

If by slit you mean the grooves around the circumfrance, my understanding is they can serve various functions.  One is to control pressure, another is to hold lubrication.  If the groove originally looked like the edge of coin, that is a cannelure for crimping the case.

 

If the base of group 1 and 2 are both aroud .357" diameter, they are probably .38 Spl.

The .30 cal. round nose could be from .30 carbine, although .32 ACP may be have a similar bullet - you can find that info on line.  Carbine has 4 groove rifling, and like the .30-06 would have had a full metal jacket.  The jacket could have been copper or bimetal (copper & soft steel).

The .38 spl may or may not have a jacket on a US base in tha time period.  The wadcutter is a target round and its interesting you found it at range on a former base.