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M1917 Machine Gun Cart

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Picked this up recently as a restoration project. It is a barn find with most of the original wood intact and only minor surface rust on the metal. We have already begun wire wheeling the metal and priming it. We will need to reconstruct the gun and ammo boxes. This is one of two that we will be restoring at Michigan's Military Heritage Museum.      Scott

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I restored one a few years ago. 

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Scott- Looks like a fun project! I wouldn't have known one if I saw it.

 

The restored version looks great too!

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Amazing barn find and restoration.

 

 

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Great job at saving a piece of history. I'm sure not many survive today...

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Thanks all, Robin yours are fantastic and I hope our two turn out as nice!   Scott

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Do yours still have data plates?

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2 hours ago, robinb said:

Do yours still have data plates?

    Yes one from St. Louis Car and the other from Velie.     Scott

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Mine was made by international harvester. 

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I am including photos of my two carts. On the double photo the cart on the right is a M/1917 Ammunition cart.  The left hand cart and the single cart is the MG M/1917, it is the example we will use in the museum's cart restoration.  I am a volunteer museum member.  Both of the carts shown have Colt-Vickers boxes and a C-V tripod in honor of the 33rd Div., in which I had a family member serve.  Thank robinb for posting photos.

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8 hours ago, illinigander said:

I am including photos of my two carts. On the double photo the cart on the right is a M/1917 Ammunition cart.  The left hand cart and the single cart is the MG M/1917, it is the example we will use in the museum's cart restoration.  I am a volunteer museum member.  Both of the carts shown have Colt-Vickers boxes and a C-V tripod in honor of the 33rd Div., in which I had a family member serve.  Thank robinb for posting photos.

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                       More than just a volunteer member, a huge part of the heart of the place and a Board member with an amazing collection and a wealth of knowledge!    Scott

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   Under the expert guidance of forum member illinigander our cart restoration is taking shape. We have had several delays as we acquired the 1909 ambulance wagons, and are also completing a 1902 caisson and limber restoration with a fairly small group of volunteers. 

    The rotted wood has been replaced and a new ammo box holder has been fabricated with mounting in progress. All of the leather straps have been made and we were able to save and reuse the original buckles and hardware. 

     Next up will be the gun box and accessories.

                    Scott

 

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Outstanding job! Lucky you!!!

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8 hours ago, P-59A said:

Outstanding job! Lucky you!!!

 

     Thank you, still a way to go on it, but its nice to see it coming together.   Scott

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5 hours ago, ScottG said:

 

     Thank you, still a way to go on it, but its nice to see it coming together.   Scott

Not  stepping on your thread, but I picked up a Model T trailer/cart that had been converted to a goat drawn cart complete with whiple trees. I have the bones and I'm looking doing at the same things your doing. Fun stuff! An old man found it as a boy in the mountains in the 1960's. It took him and his brother two days to pull it out and get it home. 

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55 minutes ago, P-59A said:

Not  stepping on your thread, but I picked up a Model T trailer/cart that had been converted to a goat drawn cart complete with whiple trees. I have the bones and I'm looking doing at the same things your doing. Fun stuff! An old man found it as a boy in the mountains in the 1960's. It took him and his brother two days to pull it out and get it home. 

 

       I would like to see that if you have any pics to share. We have a 1917 Model T Ambulance that we restored just prior to covid.      Scott

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Interesting! It has a hitch for a ball. That struck me as odd. It's not a pintle type. I have no idea when the ball type hitch came to be. This is a primitive hitch, I wouldn't trust it over 25MPH.

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I had to break it down and move it. When I pieced it back together I think I messed up. I did it spring over and that looks a little high.

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That is a neat cart, and should make for an interesting project. Thanks for sharing it here.   Scott

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7 hours ago, ScottG said:

That is a neat cart, and should make for an interesting project. Thanks for sharing it here.   Scott

To be honest I like the trailer for my Sammy better. It's a 1963 USMC equipment hauler. Its the first and only time the military used a torsion suspension system. No leaf springs. It has its data plates, but it took me a long time to find out anything about it. It had a short production run. I had to go to a military vehicle collectors site and ask for help with this, They mounted generators, air compressors and water pumps on them. I have only seen a handful a few guys have found.  I built the box and mounted it to the frame.

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Thanks to an amazing donation of a 1917 Vickers Machine Gun, we have been able to make all of the final adjustments on the M1917 Machine Gun Cart project. The gun fits in its box, the ammo and water cans fit in their rack, the tripod fits in its support on the cart. All that is left is some final cutting of the leather straps, adding the adjustment buckles to said straps, and some touch up paint at the end. Scott

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Straps have been added and we were fortunate to retain most of the original buckles for them, The tools like the mattock, shovel, and adze are installed and there are brushes, curry combs, mule shoes, etc... in the tool box. It is in a small area so we don't have the shafts and poles installed but we do have them. 

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