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AN marked McArthur seat unknown type aircraft

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McArthur made many seats for many aircraft. As of now we know this seat was in the Mars. The historic record shows this seat in use in the 1942 film. As to any other aircraft this seat may have been in I don't know. If anyone has period photo's with this seat please post them. It's hard to document what seats were used in what aircraft. I have a Navigator or radio seat I know was in a PB4Y. The prefix number confirms this yet I have never come across that seat in a period photo.

#27

My money is on a Martin Mariner. 

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#28

These are all Martin Mariner cockpit photo's. 

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#29

and the other

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#30

and the Mars

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#31

the other Mars

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#32

I hope it wasn't much money. I see the hand pump between the seats on the Mars photo's yet its missing on the Mariner photo's not to mention different seats. I see the commonality between the two, but the differences in the construction of the flight deck, the cockpit panel and the upper windshield above the 3 part sure looks to be a curved shape to the outer edges. In all 3 Mars photo's they are straight cut outer panels. At least that's what I see.

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1 minute ago, P-59A said:

I hope it wasn't much money. I see the hand pump between the seats on the Mars photo's yet its missing on the Mariner photo's not to mention different seats.

Oh well. I’ve been wrong before and this won’t be the last time I’m sure. The throttle quadrants are different in that one is a twin engine and the other a four. That’s a big difference.  

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#34

Mr. Patterson, The problem with all WW2 war birds in civilian hands is they get upgraded all the time. Post war many guys put the P-51D seat in their birds and that clouds what was used at the time. When Phantomfixer first linked that B&W photo the race was on to figure out what that was. The fact it was taken after the Canadians did a refit screwed things up. It was a question if they replaced the seats or not in my mind. Finding period photo's is the hard evidence. That still doesn't mean that seat wasn't used in other aircraft. The Warren McArthur seat that was used in the P-51D was also used in the T-6. The seat used in the B-24 was also used in the B-29. I expect someone to find another aircraft with that seat. As of now I know for a fact this seat was used in the Mars. That answered my question. This photo is a Warren McArthur P-51D type seat in a frame mount from a A-26. That is new to me. Everyone took photo's of the outside of the aircraft, but not many cockpit photo's showing the seat. Keep looking to see if this seat was in another bird. I want to know.

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#35

Fair enough! Good info!  

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#36

This period photo of a A-26 sure looks like a modification of the P-51D seat. Arm rests seem to be the difference.

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That is a really neat seat!!  I really like the construction of your seat. I agree this seat could have been used in multiple aircraft and your comment about how planes get modified over the years is absolutely true. 
 

The cockpit shot of the Aviator flying the Mars in the video shows him throttling up for takeoff with overhead throttles. Haven’t seen those overhead throttles in the Mars that are flying today. 

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#38

Hink, Crusty made a good observation about the throttle quadrant in the old Mars photo. I know its a Mars, I just don't know what they did with the throttle. In the1942 video I was looking at the seat, good eye catching the throttle!

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#39

Flight engineer's station...

 

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