July 14, 200818 yr #26 Painted???!!!! Hmmmmm......... Guess you'll have to get rid of it. Seriously, let us know about the General Orders.
July 14, 200818 yr Author #27 Painted???!!!! Hmmmmm......... Guess you'll have to get rid of it. Seriously, let us know about the General Orders. Get rid of it.....listen to this guy ...... Jim, I said I was a goof...not stupid. I will indeed post my findings or non-findings as the case may be..
July 14, 200818 yr #28 Painted ones are Paki-made, Jim told me. So .... I collect Paki-made PHs. Look forward to hearing more on the GO. Erwin
July 15, 200818 yr Author #29 Well, what is listed in section 33 of his Discharge was already partially shown in post #11. It reads as follows: "...Purple Heart GO #108 HQ 31 General Hospital 24 August 1944" So, do you think these records from the hospital still exist or am I understanding that if the PH # is not on the discharge...then the trail has ended?
July 15, 200818 yr #30 Well, what is listed in section 33 of his Discharge was already partially shown in post #11. It reads as follows: "...Purple Heart GO #108 HQ 31 General Hospital 24 August 1944" So, do you think these records from the hospital still exist or am I understanding that if the PH # is not on the discharge...then the trail has ended? You need to send a request to the Archives at College Park and request that specific General Order. They will copy it and send it to you if it still exists. Kurt
July 15, 200818 yr Author #31 You need to send a request to the Archives at College Park and request that specific General Order. They will copy it and send it to you if it still exists. Kurt Wow...will do, and I'll keep my fingers crossed. As always, thanks very much for the input Kurt. Edit: Question, is the SF-180 a MUST when requesting or is there another route that can be taken to obtain records? I am asking because as you know, the NPRC does not require the standard request form, so I was thinking it is possible that this National Archives may have several different ways to obtain?? Is there a preferred method that yields the best results?
July 15, 200818 yr #32 Get rid of it.....listen to this guy ...... Jim, I said I was a goof...not stupid. LOL It is true that this type of group will become harder to come by. I got a very nice uniform from eBay that included Ike, Trousers, Hats etc etc. Then a month later is see that the seller has put up a group of paperwork almost 2 inches thick pertaining to the soldier. It includes discharge docs, VA docs, correspondence to the VA and other unit veterans about KIAs etc. There is also a manuscript company history written in 1980's thats been annotated by the soldier. The group also had his dog tags and a couple of photos. I am just happy that I noticed the items when they were listed on eBay or I would never have been able to keep them together.
July 15, 200818 yr Author #33 LOL It is true that this type of group will become harder to come by. I got a very nice uniform from eBay that included Ike, Trousers, Hats etc etc. Then a month later is see that the seller has put up a group of paperwork almost 2 inches thick pertaining to the soldier. It includes discharge docs, VA docs, correspondence to the VA and other unit veterans about KIAs etc. There is also a manuscript company history written in 1980's thats been annotated by the soldier. The group also had his dog tags and a couple of photos. I am just happy that I noticed the items when they were listed on eBay or I would never have been able to keep them together. Incredible...I am very happy that you were able to keep the pieces together! Just think of alll of the grouping that have been scattered all over the world since the end of the war.
July 15, 200818 yr #34 I believe that a standard letter might be ok too. But if a form is available, maybe better using it? Erwin
July 15, 200818 yr #35 Very nice grouping. I'm new to checking on medals. You, no doubt already knew what I found out. Here it is anyway. It is a type II Purple Heart. No records were kept on the serial numbers and who received them. Dave
July 15, 200818 yr Author #36 I believe that a standard letter might be ok too.But if a form is available, maybe better using it? Erwin Yea, you are probably right. I better do it that way just to be safe. Thanks. Very nice grouping. I'm new to checking on medals. You, no doubt already knew what I found out. Here it is anyway. It is a type II Purple Heart. No records were kept on the serial numbers and who received them. Dave Hi Dave, While you are definitely correct about this being a Type II, but at the unit level, some did indeed register PH numbers and some of these records have found their way into the National Archives. But as Kurt said earlier, when found, this practice was usually from the early war period. I will post an update to this thread when I get a reply from the NA as to wether they have my GO# on file.
July 15, 200818 yr #37 Wow Steve, this grouping puts such a heavy face upon the cost of war even years later. I felt bad looking at all of Harold's items. Suddenly it's not about this grouping or that grouping that someone has that is better than someone elses... it's someone's life and is sobering to say the least. Nice wake up call, thanks for posting it!
July 15, 200818 yr Author #38 Wow Steve, this grouping puts such a heavy face upon the cost of war even years later. I felt bad looking at all of Harold's items. Suddenly it's not about this grouping or that grouping that someone has that is better than someone elses... it's someone's life and is sobering to say the least. Nice wake up call, thanks for posting it! Thank you Scott. You are right. Normally with a medal grouping that does not have so much personal attachment in the form of documentation, I would pay close attention to the medals themselves. Not in this case, the medals are almost just a minor added bonus to the history here. This is without a doubt, the most personal, and dare I say intimate grouping that I have ever had. It is very sad that Harold and his wife did not have that much time together after being married, and what time they did have was filled with pain and suffering.
March 7Mar 7 #39 On 7/13/2008 at 3:04 PM, IMPERIAL QUEST said: For those who enjoy Armor groupings (Jim) I have decided to share this one. All Purple Heart groupings that result in death are sad, but this one in particular is very moving as I have all of the details contained in numerous correspondence letters to the War Department concerning the wounds received by Pvt. Heafy. This fellow suffered for 8 years until he finally succumbed to his wartime injuries. There are just too many document to post, but if anyone has a particular interest in any certain thing, please PM me and I will post what I have. Some of what is included as far as paperwork is as follows: Enlistment Record, Honorable Discharge, Application for Compensation Docs, War Dept. correspondence updating Heafy's wife on his condition, Handwritten account by Heafy on wounds sustained, and Western Union Telegram notifying NOK of wound. I have tried to size the docs a large as possible so they can be easily read. First, it is always nice to put a face with our items. The photo shown below was taken in 1940 on the occasion of Harold and Christine being wed. Harold is seated. left of center. Hi Imperial Quest....This is an old post, but I wanted to reach out to you. Could you provide me with some of Pvt Heafy's records. I'm researching James Feeney, who I believe, was killed in the same tank that Harold Heafy was wounded in. Like Harold, James is from Massachusetts. The only thing I have is Pvt Heafy's 53-55 if you would like that I can provide that to you. Regards Bill
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