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1800's USMC Tintype

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Really looked like this one was going to slip through the cracks into my fingers, but some heavy hitters got involved and it ended at 611

 

Tintype, copy of a tintype, discharge papers, and some pension papers to a Marine drummer who enlisted at 16. Paperwork included said he served a year from 1878-1879, but Ancestry had records for another Marine drummer, same name, in the Civil War...so I'm thinking it may have been the same Marine with broken service. Beautiful image, wish I had the funds to take it home, but at the moment, I don't

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#3

Document

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rear

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#5

If I ever sell it, it's YOURS!!

#6

Very interesting grouping and cool grouping. My guess is the tin type dates from his first enlistment (CW period)...neat you can see the kepi in there....the papers from his second cruise....what is interesting he is listed as a landsman vice a Marine.....I have poor knowledge of this period but I wonder why landsman.....I thought the Navy used Landsman for those new to the service before they acquired skills. Any info would be appreciated.....now in retrospect I see why this group was so sought.

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#7

Only 3 of us were playing big...I came in third

 

I'm not certain he was in for the CW...but the stars seem to align with the rolls there

#8

Brig all the way through the war until 1866

#9

No doubt, CW Marine, my2centw

#10

Thanks everyone for the info. Much appreciated. It's one of my first big purchases and I am HONORED to own it. I am also indebted and humbled by any information that anyone else gives me to make my research on this project easier. I am new to this and appreciate EVERYTHING. That's why I love this forum. Everyone helps each other.

Respectfully,

Semper Fidelis

Chuck

#11

And that's the reason if I ever sold it, it would be offered on this forum first (to Brig) and to other forum members.

RS/SF
CDS

#12

Got the grouping today. WOW!! What a group!

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Dirk,

"....what is interesting he is listed as a landsman vice a Marine.....I have poor knowledge of this period but I wonder why landsman.....I thought the Navy used Landsman for those new to the service before they acquired skills..."

His 1877-78 service was Navy, not Marines, and he was 26 years old with no civilian occupation when he enlisted. I suspect his previous Marine skills would have been of little use as a sailor. He was only enlisted for one year, and was discharged at his own request three months early. I would also guess he was of little use as a sailor too, and probably didn't want to reenlist in the Marines. Not an unusual situation for a man with no skills.

Bluejacket

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#14

He served the entirety of the CW as a drummer...that's a skill, only a very specialized one that's not always in high demand

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