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2nd Cavalry Division Coat

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#1

This is an original un-messed-with coat. I didn't get it for cheap, but I'm very glad that I got it.

 

 

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I checked one of the pockets because I knew there was something in there...not much, but it helped narrow things down....

#2

Really nice uniform! I like it!

 

-Ski

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#3

...And I found this 14th Cavalry DUI. It fit perfectly when I slid it back on the left epaulette where it belonged.

 

 

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The back of the receipt says

 

Blouse: P. Sow on Pumpkin

Glasgow

3-27-37

 

Perhaps "pumpkin" was slang for the patch? Anyway, this dates the coat to the time when the 14th was assigned to 2nd Cav Div, before division was activated.

 

Also, it appears to have "HQ 7197" written on the inside. Either that or it's "HO", but I don't know if personnel ever used two initials before their serials.

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#4

I'm thinking about restoring the collar brass.

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#5

looks a BDU hat band ! yellow due to cavalry color

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#6

i belive Pumkin was the nickname for 2nd cav division patch as it resemble a jackalantern (someone spellcheck that please?)

 

i have some letters from an 11th Cavalry trooper in the 30s saying to his brother that "the regiment was giving up the pumkin patch"

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#7
i belive Pumkin was the nickname for 2nd cav division patch as it resemble a jackalantern (someone spellcheck that please?)

 

i have some letters from an 11th Cavalry trooper in the 30s saying to his brother that "the regiment was giving up the pumkin patch"

 

 

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

Do you have any 1930s 14th Cav rosters in your archives? I'm wondering if "Glasgow" is this soldier's surname.

#8

ive got one from 1941,i will check it out Sunday (im not 100% when the 14th joined the 2nd Cav Divsision)

 

That ribbon DI is awesome!!!!

 

Ive got a an EM shirt with theose stitched on and a lovely pair of crossed sabres but no pumkin on it!

#9

Great looking uniform! Hope you can find the name of the original owner. That cloth DI really makes it stand out!

#10

Love seeing real and early 2nd Cav items! My grandfather was with Troop G 2nd cavalry regiment from March of 41 until the horses were done away with and they were converted to amphibian tanks.

#11
Love seeing real and early 2nd Cav items! My grandfather was with Troop G 2nd cavalry regiment from March of 41 until the horses were done away with and they were converted to amphibian tanks.

 

The uniform is for the 2nd Cavalry DIVISION, not the 2nd Cavalry Regiment. Quite a bit of difference. :blink:

That is one fine looking uniform! :thumbsup:

#12

i have in all my junk a Christmas menu and roster 1940 for HQ Troop 14th Cavalry

 

listed as Corporal P Glasgow

 

written in ink on reverse Glasgow was killed on Bataan

 

maybe your guy

 

he isnt anywhere in a 1941 complete regimental roster i have

 

maybe the same fella?

#13

Lee the 2nd cavalry regiment was a part of the 2nd cavalry division

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#14
i have in all my junk a Christmas menu and roster 1940 for HQ Troop 14th Cavalry

 

listed as Corporal P Glasgow

 

written in ink on reverse Glasgow was killed on Bataan

 

maybe your guy

 

he isnt anywhere in a 1941 complete regimental roster i have

 

maybe the same fella?

 

Thanks a lot for finding that. This is sort of poignant. I'm certain that's him; the markings inside the coat appear to show "HQ 7197".

 

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#15
Lee the 2nd cavalry regiment was a part of the 2nd cavalry division

 

I was not aware of that. I stand corrected. (Many people think that like numbered regiments have served with divisions of the same number. That isn't allways the case, for example the 1st Infantry Regiment has never been assigned to the 1st Infantry Divison, they were in the 6th I.D.)

#16

I also have Sgt P Glasgow in an a roster from 1941 for HQ Troop,2nd Cavalry Regiment

 

someone as filled in with pencil everyones job and this Glasgow is a farrier

 

im finding Glasgows everywhere!!!!!!

#17
I also have Sgt P Glasgow in an a roster from 1941 for HQ Troop,2nd Cavalry Regiment

 

someone as filled in with pencil everyones job and this Glasgow is a farrier

 

im finding Glasgows everywhere!!!!!!

 

I think you'll find one in Scotland too HAR-HAR-HAR-HARDEE-HAR-HAR ! :D

#18

Nice uniform

 

 

B Jay

#19
I'm thinking about restoring the collar brass.

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its more of completion than a restoration

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#20
I also have Sgt P Glasgow in an a roster from 1941 for HQ Troop,2nd Cavalry Regiment

 

someone as filled in with pencil everyones job and this Glasgow is a farrier

 

im finding Glasgows everywhere!!!!!!

 

I just looked in the 2nd Cavalry 1941 yearbook and didn't see him in the HQ Troop, although that doesn't mean anything.

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#21

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not 100% relevant but this is a trooper from the 14th

 

note the 2nd Cav SSI paintjop on the tin hat

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#22
not 100% relevant but this is a trooper from the 14th

 

note the 2nd Cav SSI paintjop on the tin hat

 

 

Good stuff indeed. Dig that helmet.

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#23

A nice coat and a nice DUI, however, they would not go together! The 14th Cavalry did not join the 2nd Cav. Div. until sometime in 1941. The DUI for the regiment at that time was the new metal and enamel one that replaced the ribbon in April 1940.

The ribbon DUI you have was worn by the 14th when they were stationed at Des Moines, during which time they were unassigned and wore no shoulder patch.

CB

#24

A nice coat and a nice DUI, however, they would not go together! The 14th Cavalry did not join the 2nd Cav. Div. until sometime in 1941. The DUI for the regiment at that time was the new metal and enamel one that replaced the ribbon in April 1940.

The ribbon DUI you have was worn by the 14th when they were stationed at Des Moines, during which time they were unassigned and wore no shoulder patch.

CB

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#25

A nice coat and a nice DUI, however, they would not go together! The 14th Cavalry did not join the 2nd Cav. Div. until sometime in 1941. The DUI for the regiment at that time was the new metal and enamel one that replaced the ribbon in April 1940.

The ribbon DUI you have was worn by the 14th when they were stationed at Des Moines, during which time they were unassigned and wore no shoulder patch.

CB

 

The coat is indeed from the Des Moines days, but the 14th Cavalry was assigned to the 2nd Cavalry Division even though the division hadn't been activated. In my original post, note the receipt for the "pumpkin" patch sewing job - the date is 1937.

 

From another site:

 

The history of the 2nd Cavalry Division says that it wasn't active during the period my father served in the 14th Cavalry - yet, in his formal portrait taken about 1935, he is wearing the 2nd Division Cavalry patch and it is clearly visible.

 

http://www.militaryh....php?f=3&t=2291

 

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