January 13, 201214 yr #1 Well this is beyond me, another ultra rare lid , ill let the pics do the talking :thumbdown: http://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-Helmet-liner-WW...=item19cc71ef49
January 13, 201214 yr Author #2 Love the artificial aging on this one, and the name is the same paint used as the insignia
January 13, 201214 yr Author #3 Love the artificial aging on this one, and the name is the same paint used as the insignia
January 13, 201214 yr #4 At least this time he's only defacing a rusty, cracked shell with no bales left on it. :thumbdown:
January 13, 201214 yr Author #5 At least this time he's only defacing a rusty, cracked shell with no bales left on it. :thumbdown: Still a shame
January 13, 201214 yr #6 Hello everyone, i found the connection between mr.ciak and mr.jngol about THIS helmet. I think that the helmet shown below in the other ended Ebay transaction, is the original shell bought last november by Mr.Ciak and after maquillage was transformed in the present helmet !!! You can see that it have the identical detil about surt, paint over rim, etc...... See this ebay transaction... Ebay ended auction 1 The e-buyer with the feedback on 11.30.2011 The Ebuyer Mr.Ciak
January 13, 201214 yr #7 I really don't know why everyone gets so worked up. No one on this Forum is going to stop this happening. If this guy stops there are plenty ready to replace him. As I mentioned on another post, anyone who builds their collection by using E-bay alone deserves to get burnt. If people are too lazy to get out and learn the ropes by looking at lids at shows then I have no pity for whoever buys these fakes. If they want to buy sh1t then more fool them. The people buying them obviously don't use this forum (as many don't). Too be honest some don't care. If people can't be bothered to learn their hobby then tough, I won't be losing any sleep over these fakes. Harsh but true !!!!! Rich
January 13, 201214 yr #8 Still a shame Oh, I agree. Still better than the guy who takes original WW2 Inland liners and tears the webbing out to make fake paratrooper liners though IMO.
January 13, 201214 yr #9 Hello everyone,i found the connection between mr.ciak and mr.jngol about THIS helmet. I think that the helmet shown below in the other ended Ebay transaction, is the original shell bought last november by Mr.Ciak and after maquillage was transformed in the present helmet !!! You can see that it have the identical detil about surt, paint over rim, etc...... See this ebay transaction... Ebay ended auction 1 The e-buyer with the feedback on 11.30.2011 The Ebuyer Mr.Ciak Good catch francesco, here are the two helmet inside shots. there is one mark on the inside that looks the same.
January 13, 201214 yr #11 Good catch francesco, here are the two helmet inside shots. there is one mark on the inside that looks the same. Yes and there are all the other sign of rust on the internal and external of the shell. Absolultly the same helmet. No other possibility about it. File closed.....
January 13, 201214 yr #12 Great detective work Francesco! What Mr Jingle-bells does is purely and simply theft by another name and unfortunately he has lots of willing victims just queuing up to throw their money at his creations! :thumbdown:
January 13, 201214 yr #13 Great detective work Francesco! What Mr Jingle-bells does is purely and simply theft by another name and unfortunately he has lots of willing victims just queuing up to throw their money at his creations! :thumbdown: it was only a lucky research through Ebay....but thanks for your compliment for the "great detective work"
January 13, 201214 yr Author #14 I really don't know why everyone gets so worked up. No one on this Forum is going to stop this happening. If this guy stops there are plenty ready to replace him. As I mentioned on another post, anyone who builds their collection by using E-bay alone deserves to get burnt. If people are too lazy to get out and learn the ropes by looking at lids at shows then I have no pity for whoever buys these fakes. If they want to buy sh1t then more fool them.The people buying them obviously don't use this forum (as many don't). Too be honest some don't care. If people can't be bothered to learn their hobby then tough, I won't be losing any sleep over these fakes. Harsh but true !!!!! Rich Hi King i agree , but we need to keep posting this because there are always new members that join here that may still be a bit green, and it alerts them to these fakers before they spend silly amounts of money on a fake. I also wouldnt want a son or daughter getting her/his fathers collection in 30 years time then to be told they are fakes.. If we all shout loud enough people will hear us :thumbsup:
January 13, 201214 yr #15 We also need to document it so when it shows up on a dealers table "Direct from a veterans estate!" five years from now, we will all know better. Leonardo
January 13, 201214 yr #16 maybe Mr.Ciak is the account that buys the helmets,materials,etc and Mr.Jingol account sells them :think: Philip
January 13, 201214 yr #17 maybe Mr.Ciak is the account that buys the helmets,materials,etc and Mr.Jingol account sells them :think: Philip Totally logical Philip! :thumbsup:
January 13, 201214 yr #18 Not for nothing, as this is undoubtedly an outright fake as documented by all here, but would a soldier really be as unspecific as to mark the inside of his helmet with his division as opposed to company, battalion, or even regiment?? I mean really!? :think:
January 13, 201214 yr #19 Smear paint on it, throw it in the flower bed for a few weeks, and you too can have an "authentic" WWII helmet! :ermm:
January 14, 201214 yr #21 I really don't know why everyone gets so worked up. No one on this Forum is going to stop this happening. If this guy stops there are plenty ready to replace him. As I mentioned on another post, anyone who builds their collection by using E-bay alone deserves to get burnt. If people are too lazy to get out and learn the ropes by looking at lids at shows then I have no pity for whoever buys these fakes. If they want to buy sh1t then more fool them.The people buying them obviously don't use this forum (as many don't). Too be honest some don't care. If people can't be bothered to learn their hobby then tough, I won't be losing any sleep over these fakes. Harsh but true !!!!! Rich In a way, I agree with you Rich - Too many people buy this junk without researching anything at all. I do have some pity though, but not a lot. It's good to post the photos and warn about the sellers here on the forum though - It helps the new guys out, and they're coming here to at least try to learn.
January 14, 201214 yr #22 Dott.hide is also the same person as Mr.Jingol and Mr.Ciak. I'm sure if you look through his feedback you can find some more interesting transactions. http://www.ebay.com/sch/dott.hide/m.html?_...p;_trksid=p3984
January 14, 201214 yr #23 Dott.hide is also the same person as Mr.Jingol and Mr.Ciak. I'm sure if you look through his feedback you can find some more interesting transactions. http://www.ebay.com/sch/dott.hide/m.html?_...p;_trksid=p3984 Yeah, it has been mentioned a few times in the past, the connection between ciak, jingol, hide, and there was another "dott" name in there as well I thought.
January 14, 201214 yr #24 Yeah, it has been mentioned a few times in the past, the connection between ciak, jingol, hide, and there was another "dott" name in there as well I thought. You're right Hoovie! Dott.Jekill is the other name, this guy is all over the place. And some serious shill bidding going on throughout all of these transactions. I do wonder when the last time he sold a helmet to someone other than himself.
January 15, 201214 yr #25 You're right Hoovie! Dott.Jekill is the other name, this guy is all over the place. And some serious shill bidding going on throughout all of these transactions. I do wonder when the last time he sold a helmet to someone other than himself. Seems the names are fitting. Jekill and Hide
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