Justin Posted January 20, 2011 Share #1 Posted January 20, 2011 Are these the first pattern poncho liners? What does this date too? Tag is white washed, but I would think 63 - 64 era? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sgtdorango Posted January 20, 2011 Share #3 Posted January 20, 2011 Oh man thats cool!!... :w00t: ..mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted January 20, 2011 Oh man thats cool!!... :w00t: ..mike Figured you would like it Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted January 20, 2011 Share #5 Posted January 20, 2011 Justin, I don't have the time to do the research right now but I don't think these were that early. I don't think the lightweight poncho with liner came into use until after the big troop build up in 1965. Prior to that they were using the older model heavy rubberized poncho from the early 60's. I'm guessing these may have shown up in 66 and then probably 68 or so for the ERDL pattern liner. I have seen them also with a duck hunter pattern. I always regreted not getting one of those when I could. I can't pin this down but I think the pattern you have is actually a private purchase item sold in surplus stores. This would have been post Vietnam but I just can't recall for sure. You may have a VERY NICE item there or maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted January 20, 2011 I just did a little searching, here's one I found http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/rare...ted-camo-poncho with readable tag, says it's dated 1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted January 20, 2011 Here's another one I found on the internet, no picture of the tag, but the owner says it's dated 1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share #8 Posted January 20, 2011 and one more from http://www.ljmilitaria.com/geargeneral/equipment_.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share #9 Posted January 20, 2011 Justin, I don't have the time to do the research right now but I don't think these were that early. I don't think the lightweight poncho with liner came into use until after the big troop build up in 1965. Prior to that they were using the older model heavy rubberized poncho from the early 60's. I'm guessing these may have shown up in 66 and then probably 68 or so for the ERDL pattern liner. I have seen them also with a duck hunter pattern. I always regreted not getting one of those when I could. I can't pin this down but I think the pattern you have is actually a private purchase item sold in surplus stores. This would have been post Vietnam but I just can't recall for sure. You may have a VERY NICE item there or maybe not. The reason I said I thought it was 63 - 64 era is because I've read there were some made that early here on the forum. Adviser issue perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05B4S Posted January 20, 2011 Share #10 Posted January 20, 2011 The reason I said I thought it was 63 - 64 era is because I've read there were some made that early here on the forum. Adviser issue perhaps? 7th SFG was issued them in 1963. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mower66 Posted January 20, 2011 Share #11 Posted January 20, 2011 Ive been wrong many a time but did the "Duck hunter" cam preceed the green liner....dont see many of either around Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
439th Signal Battalion Posted January 21, 2011 Share #12 Posted January 21, 2011 7th SFG was issued them in 1963. That is an early piece for Vietnam, mainly for SF personnel and some of the first ARVN advisors. I had one years ago dated '64 that I purchased from an SF vet, probably 7th Group, that was there in the early days. From what I understand, they are fairly rare these days too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiGilio Posted January 21, 2011 Share #13 Posted January 21, 2011 Ive got one of these spot camo liners dated 1962, which is the earliest date Ive seen. Some people say the plain OD poncho liners, which are usually undated are expiremental and earlier than the spot camo ones but Ive seen OD liners with DSA 1-6998 or similar numbers. Which would be from 1965. Some of the OD liners dont even have rounded corners along with not being dated (just has a tag with instructions). Seems likely to me that due to a big shortage of liners in VN during that time, there was a rushed production of simple OD liners just to get liners into the hands of soldiers over there. The spot camo ones seem to of been around from just about the start of development of these so I think there are too many of the OD liners around to all be expiremental. ERDL liners come out in 1966. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share #14 Posted January 21, 2011 Ive got one of these spot camo liners dated 1962, which is the earliest date Ive seen. Some people say the plain OD poncho liners, which are usually undated are expiremental and earlier than the spot camo ones but Ive seen OD liners with DSA 1-6998 or similar numbers. Which would be from 1965. Some of the OD liners dont even have rounded corners along with not being dated (just has a tag with instructions). Seems likely to me that due to a big shortage of liners in VN during that time, there was a rushed production of simple OD liners just to get liners into the hands of soldiers over there. The spot camo ones seem to of been around from just about the start of development of these so I think there are too many of the OD liners around to all be expiremental. ERDL liners come out in 1966. I have an OD Green one too, I got it for $1.47 on ebay 2 years ago. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34BDQ Posted January 22, 2011 Share #15 Posted January 22, 2011 I had one issued to me in June 66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtdorango Posted January 22, 2011 Share #16 Posted January 22, 2011 So Justin....is the first camo liner yours and how did you acquire it, is it one of those mislisted type items that you scored for peanuts or did you have to pay big?....please tell us the story!!!.....mike :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruciantime Posted January 22, 2011 Share #17 Posted January 22, 2011 Good score! I have a 64 poncho and would like to sometime find an early liner to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share #18 Posted January 24, 2011 I just went through a few more of my poncho liners, I have a ERDL one dated 67, would that be a harder to find date as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combat-helmets Posted September 25, 2011 Share #19 Posted September 25, 2011 So would these type of poncho rigs (with liner) be what marines would have used, or the heavy nylon Army type? Have a hole In my early USMC Vietnam collection, and need to acquire one. Can someone please steer me in the right direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share #20 Posted September 25, 2011 So would these type of poncho rigs (with liner) be what marines would have used, or the heavy nylon Army type?Have a hole In my early USMC Vietnam collection, and need to acquire one. Can someone please steer me in the right direction? I've never seen a Marine with one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share #21 Posted September 25, 2011 So would these type of poncho rigs (with liner) be what marines would have used, or the heavy nylon Army type?Have a hole In my early USMC Vietnam collection, and need to acquire one. Can someone please steer me in the right direction? I've never seen a Marine with one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodi Posted September 29, 2011 Share #22 Posted September 29, 2011 Hi this one from my collection. Uploaded with No_outside_hosting.us Uploaded with No_outside_hosting.us Uploaded with No_outside_hosting.us \I have this same problem- marines use this liner or not ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share #23 Posted September 29, 2011 Very nice poncho, I believe 1962 was the earliest. 63 seems to be the most common, and then 1964. I'm still looking for one with a readable tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted August 5, 2015 Share #24 Posted August 5, 2015 To resurrect a thread on poncho liners.. I picked this up yesterday for a very nice price...If I am reading the thread correctly..it was made around 65? it is straight OD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted August 6, 2015 Author Share #25 Posted August 6, 2015 Nice poncho liner, does it have all the tie downs? Looks minty! Solid OD I'd assume correct? J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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