BEAST Posted October 23, 2010 Share #1 Posted October 23, 2010 I am surprised nobody has mentioned this fine piece of ...."art". The best part of the movie didn't involve the actors, just the computers that generated the graphics. I was highly amused to read COL Carroll Glines (Tokyo Raider historian) comments on the Tokyo raid as portrayed in this fantasy film "Myth: The movie Pearl Harbor correctly portrayed the Doolittle Raid throughout. Fact: Nothing could be further from the truth. There were so many inaccuracies and fallacies in that movie that it was a great disservice to the brave men who flew the mission. The writer and director purposely distorted the facts and invented actions, personnel and dialog solely in the interest of entertainment. The movie deserved to “bomb” because of this and it did." http://www.travisairmuseum.org/html/doolittle_raid.html IF anyone would like to change my mind, please feel free to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 23, 2010 Share #2 Posted October 23, 2010 The movie is sooooo bad, it's almost "funny"...were it not for the gravity of the events it portrays. The notion of "our hero" being transferred to the RAF to take part in the Battle of Britiain was a grave dis-service to the genuine "Eagle Squadron" volunteers who did it for real! Personally, I'd rather watch "Tora! Tora! Tora!" any day of the week! Sabrejet :thumbdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted October 23, 2010 Share #3 Posted October 23, 2010 Reminded me of something Oliver Stone would do. When in need of history, make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 23, 2010 Share #4 Posted October 23, 2010 Guys - you're missing the point...Pearl Harbor is meant to be entertainment, not historical fact! Once you view it considering it's nothing but mindless entertainment, it's not all that bad... Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamski Posted October 23, 2010 Share #5 Posted October 23, 2010 Why did you even have to bring up that piece of crap. It is a living insult to all those who fought in WWII. They even had a screening for PH vets before the release of the movie. I couldn't imagine what those vets thought of the movie. Absolute garbage. I'm almost gaging right now thinking of it..... Now you got me started.... Watching scenes with Alec Baldwin was like watching SNL. I laughed out loud. "I got these medals".... Yeah? "And I'm going to attach them to that bomb." Ok..... (as the non-actor Ben Afflick looks at his fellow antoginist) Straight out of an SNL skit.... What the hell is with the nurses with the hair down at the beginning of the movie. With their cherry red lips, it looked like a lead-in to a porno scene. Later their hair is up, as if to show a passage of time. Really poor. ANY idea of having fighter pilots flying the B-25s over Tokyo is an outright insult to the BOMBER pilots that carried out the mission. KFC.... My British buddy called the base on which the Spitires were located at on the movie as RAF Estate Home. Again, KFC..... Sorry but there were no Spitfires parked behind stately mansions. They actually were on bases..... I love the line "Well, at least he was able to land the kite before he died" as Ben the non-actor looks at the broken, bloody canopy of the Spitfire...... Absolutely pathetic.... I could go on and on. It was the worst movie I have ever seen. I had to watch as a comedy and I had tears in my eyes from laughing so hard. It was either that or throwing up..... They had the opportunity to do something great, and they royally screwed it up. Hell 1941 was more accurate.... -Ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjones5452 Posted October 23, 2010 Share #6 Posted October 23, 2010 We're not talking a great historical factual epic here. We're talking about a movie that a twenty-something would take a date to, and it did get one of my neighbors boys interested enough to start reading At Dawn We Slept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjohns Posted October 23, 2010 Share #7 Posted October 23, 2010 I just want the hat that "Lt Gooz Wood" wears...it has the little AAF patch on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 23, 2010 Share #8 Posted October 23, 2010 Possibly only surpassed in recent times by U-571 as Hollywood's Mickey Mouse re-writing of history! Sabrejet :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamski Posted October 23, 2010 Share #9 Posted October 23, 2010 Possibly only surpassed in recent times by U-571 as Hollywood's Mickey Mouse re-writing of history!Sabrejet :pinch: What's wrong with U-571? Any historical movie featuring Jon Bon Jovi of Americans securing the Ultra decoder has got to be good! -Ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamski Posted October 23, 2010 Share #10 Posted October 23, 2010 We're not talking a great historical factual epic here. We're talking about a movie that a twenty-something wouldtake a date to, and it did get one of my neighbors boys interested enough to start reading At Dawn We Slept. 300 was a movie that had both action and style and yet kept to the basic timelines and events of history. You can only twist history so far before you actually insult it. I really enjoyed 300. It had grit. The infanticide that the movie portrayed at the beginning would seem to be a hollywood ploy, yet it was factual. Pearl Harbor literally insulted those who fought in the battle. One of the two pilots who engaged the Japanese over Pearl Harbor was furious over the movie. -Ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 23, 2010 Share #11 Posted October 23, 2010 What's wrong with U-571? Any historical movie featuring Jon Bon Jovi of Americans securing the Ultra decoder has got to be good! -Ski Eric...try telling that to a member of the Royal Navy...i.e., the guys who actually captured an intact enigma machine and code-book off a U-Boat!! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamski Posted October 23, 2010 Share #12 Posted October 23, 2010 Eric...try telling that to a member of the Royal Navy...i.e., the guys who actually captured an intact enigma machine and code-book off a U-Boat!! Ian You know I am joking, right? We all know how misguided the movie was. -Ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 23, 2010 Share #13 Posted October 23, 2010 Yes Eric...I knew you were kidding! We Brits are only too familiar with that Hollywood movie genre otherwise known as How the Yanks won the war! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBMflyer Posted October 23, 2010 Share #14 Posted October 23, 2010 The only reason to watch this travesty; KATE BECKINSALE and some cool P-40's. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamski Posted October 23, 2010 Share #15 Posted October 23, 2010 The only reason to watch this travesty; KATE BECKINSALE and some cool P-40's. Mark No doubt on KB! -Ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted October 23, 2010 Share #16 Posted October 23, 2010 The only reason to watch this travesty; KATE BECKINSALE and some cool P-40's. Mark I'm with you there!! :drool2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted October 23, 2010 Share #17 Posted October 23, 2010 No matter what you guys say to me, nothing will convince me that THE WORST WAR MOVIE EVER MADE isn't that epic drama starring Henry Fonda.........Battle of the Bilge. I'd rather kiss Jane than watch that crap again........ :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary25 Posted October 23, 2010 Share #18 Posted October 23, 2010 Guys.... Pearl Harbor is a Romantic movie more than a war movie. It is something I would watch with a girl. I enjoy fanasty war scenes while she would be like "awww" at the love or drama scenes. Is it a good war movie? No. Entertaining? Yes. Whose audience? Both men and women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 23, 2010 Share #19 Posted October 23, 2010 No matter what you guys say to me, nothing will convince me that THE WORST WAR MOVIE EVER MADE isn't that epic drama starring Henry Fonda.........Battle of the Bilge. I'd rather kiss Jane than watch that crap again........ :pinch: Dontcha just love all those M47s with black crosses on the turret...not to mention Telly Savalas's turretless M24!? The best line is when the Robert Shaw character is offered some captured chocolate cake by his driver. He says something like "I know the war is lost when my Panzers don't have enough fuel, but the Americans have enough to fly chocolate cake 5,000 miles"....or words to that effect! Sabrejet :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted October 23, 2010 Share #20 Posted October 23, 2010 Dontcha just love all those M47s with black crosses on the turret...not to mention Telly Savalas's turretless M24!? The best line is when the Robert Shaw character is offered some captured chocolate cake by his driver. He says something like "I know the war is lost when my Panzers don't have enough fuel, but the Americans have enough to fly chocolate cake 5,000 miles"....or words to that effect! Sabrejet :pinch: Or enough to pour over those reels.... :disgust: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 23, 2010 Share #21 Posted October 23, 2010 Or enough to pour over those reels.... :disgust: Quite! However, without the co-operation of the Spanish Army, a whole bunch of those 60s war movies wouldn't have been made (including the classic "Battle of Britain") as they were still using obsolete US and German types which they obviously didn't mind renting out to movie companies. I think even "Patton" utilised them? Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-17Guy Posted November 15, 2010 Share #22 Posted November 15, 2010 Dontcha just love all those M47s with black crosses on the turret...not to mention Telly Savalas's turretless M24!? The best line is when the Robert Shaw character is offered some captured chocolate cake by his driver. He says something like "I know the war is lost when my Panzers don't have enough fuel, but the Americans have enough to fly chocolate cake 5,000 miles"....or words to that effect! Sabrejet :pinch: Here is a piece on one of the M24's you may like. Like or dis-like the movie, I feel lucky to have this. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...showtopic=81243 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchu Warrior Posted November 15, 2010 Share #23 Posted November 15, 2010 For awhile after I watched the movie "Quantrill's Raiders" as a kid, I believed that Quantrill was killed during the raid on Lawrence, Kansas. The fact that he was actually shot and killed in the state of Kentucky almost two years after the Lawrence raid was lost on me. Simply because the movie claimed otherwise. I leaned a valuable lesson when I learned the true facts. And that was not to expect to learn true historical facts when watching Hollywood movies. However, that does not mean that I do not enjoy watching the movies I just don't expect them to be historically accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixbayonets! Posted November 15, 2010 Share #24 Posted November 15, 2010 The only reason to watch this travesty; KATE BECKINSALE and some cool P-40's. Mark Well I am glad there are some members here who appreciate true beauty when they see it. To hell with the movie, I could look at Kate Beckinsale all day. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted November 15, 2010 Share #25 Posted November 15, 2010 I am sorry but the Worst War Movie Ever Made is the 9 Academy Awards Winner, The English Patient. Author, director and those who have voted for this movie should face the firing squad... :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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