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And this official period blotter on the 161th Armored Infantry Battalion 40th Armored Division California National Guard.

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On 2/4/2020 at 10:12 AM, Flashlarue said:

Army Air Defense Artillery School located at Ft. Sill Oklahoma.

 

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The NS MEYER Hallmark on this is most interesting, and curious. Why, because this DI as per the TIOH was approved in 1965, 4 May 1965, and as such would or should have the Double Meyer Shield 22M, this one here on the DI is a Pre 1954 Meyer Hallmark, a Single Shield,  after 1954 a Double Meyer Shield 9M appears, more over this DI is Pin Back, and Pin Backs DIs, U.S. made At any rate, weren't made as far as we know after the 1950s.

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Great find of the old 731st Field Artillery Battalion's DI, it's on a Khaki Shirt, worn pre 1960,  as the unit like all the FA Battalions was inactivated under CARS. 731st Field Artillery Battalion at this time is a Reserve unit from Waterbury Connecticut under XIII Corps, XIII Corps HQed at Fort Devens, Massachusetts.

 

Unit Motto Proven and Proud, DI adopted 8 March 1957, making it a rare worn one before its inactivation 1 September 1959. 

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 A 1950s redesigned version of the 178th Infantry's original unit crest, that neither James Sawicki in his Infantry linage series, or TIOH made a note of.

 

a 1950s redesigned version of the 178th Infantry's original unit crest, that neither James Sawicki in his Infantry linage series, or TIOH made a note of..jpg

The original type, unknown why the design change in the 50s.

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3 hours ago, patches said:

For Your Reference.

 

The 254th Field Artillery Battalion adopted 8 February 1956., when DI adopted the unit was in West Germany.

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A recent topic where there was a Japan based unit in the post war period, that has the same motto, which needed clarification.

 

 

 

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Lets post this in it's entirety for reference purposes, from the TIOH, this being the This We'll Defend Drill Sergeants Badge, for our purposes it will be the small Distinctive Unit Insignia it started out as in early 1958 as Distinctive Unit Insignia worn by all personnel of U.S, Army Training Activities, worn just like a unit crest to include helmet liner decals. There can be some confusion by some members who are unaware that this Drill Sergeant Badge was also a DUI when seen say on the shoulder loops of a uniform from the very late 50s into the 60s. Do not think it is worn as a DUI anymore since the early-sh mid-sh 70s, as these training establishments have DUIs of their own, in example the Infantry School Ft Benning that started to exclusively give Infantry AIT in like 1974, they simply wear the well known FOLLOW ME with Bayonet DUI, and that would include the Drill Sergeants, they'll wear the Drill Sergeant Badge in cloth or metal on the pocket, but they'll be wearing the DUI of their parent organization.

 

 

Drill Sergeant - Identification Badge

 

 

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Description

A gold plated metal and enamel insignia, 2 inches (5.08 cm) in width and 1 51/64 inches (4.56 cm) in height, consisting of a flaming torch above a breast plate and upon in front of a rattlesnake on a green background, grasping in its mouth at upper right and with its tail at upper left, the ends of an encircling scroll inscribed ''THIS WE'LL DEFEND'' in black letters, between 13 black stars, 7 on the left and 6 on the right.


 

Symbolism

Some elements of the design are adapted from the United States Army Flag and the Seal of the Department of the Army (a snake, the motto and scroll and the armor). Also contained in the design is the torch of liberty and 13 stars.


 

Eligibility and Criteria

See Army Regulation 600-8-22, Military Awards.


 

Background

The metal badge was first approved as the distinctive insignia for wear by trainer personnel assigned to U.S. Army Training Activities on 15 January 1958. The insignia for Trainer Personnel was authorized for wear by drill sergeants assigned to training commands in 1964. At this time, the insignia was authorized for wear in metal and embroidered form. The embroidered version was manufactured in full color (yellow, green and black) and subdued. In 1969, policy was changed and it was mandatory to wear subdued insignia on field clothing. At this time, the Drill Sergeant Identification Badge, embroidered, was no longer authorized for wear in full color.


 

Subdued Badge

A subdued badge is authorized in a flat black metal finish.


 

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Lets post this in it's entirety for reference purposes, from the TIOH, this being the This We'll Defend Drill Sergeants Badge, for our purposes it will be the small Distinctive Unit Insignia it started out as in early 1958 as Distinctive Unit Insignia worn by all personnel of U.S, Army Training Activities, worn just like a unit crest to include helmet liner decals. There can be some confusion by some members who are unaware that this Drill Sergeant Badge was also a DUI when seen say on the shoulder loops of a uniform from the very late 50s into the 60s. Do not think it is worn as a DUI anymore since the early-sh mid-sh 70s, as these training establishments have DUIs of their own, in example the Infantry School Ft Benning that started to exclusively give Infantry AIT in like 1974, they simply wear the well known FOLLOW ME with Bayonet DUI, and that would include the Drill Sergeants, they'll wear the Drill Sergeant Badge in cloth or metal on the pocket, but they'll be wearing the DUI of their parent organization.

 

 

Drill Sergeant - Identification Badge

 

 

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Description

A gold plated metal and enamel insignia, 2 inches (5.08 cm) in width and 1 51/64 inches (4.56 cm) in height, consisting of a flaming torch above a breast plate and upon in front of a rattlesnake on a green background, grasping in its mouth at upper right and with its tail at upper left, the ends of an encircling scroll inscribed ''THIS WE'LL DEFEND'' in black letters, between 13 black stars, 7 on the left and 6 on the right.


 

Symbolism

Some elements of the design are adapted from the United States Army Flag and the Seal of the Department of the Army (a snake, the motto and scroll and the armor). Also contained in the design is the torch of liberty and 13 stars.


 

Eligibility and Criteria

See Army Regulation 600-8-22, Military Awards.


 

Background

The metal badge was first approved as the distinctive insignia for wear by trainer personnel assigned to U.S. Army Training Activities on 15 January 1958. The insignia for Trainer Personnel was authorized for wear by drill sergeants assigned to training commands in 1964. At this time, the insignia was authorized for wear in metal and embroidered form. The embroidered version was manufactured in full color (yellow, green and black) and subdued. In 1969, policy was changed and it was mandatory to wear subdued insignia on field clothing. At this time, the Drill Sergeant Identification Badge, embroidered, was no longer authorized for wear in full color.


 

Subdued Badge

A subdued badge is authorized in a flat black metal finish.


 

An example of the no longer wearing of the THIS WE'LL DEFEND DUI.

 

One of my Company Drill Sergeants at Ft Benning Jan-April 1980, the late Doyle Poe,  photo was taken sometime in 1979 probably, see the wear of the Infantry School DUI. Now say in a 1967 portrait of a Drill Sergeant here at Ft Benning (Benning gave only Basic Training in the Vietnam War period and ws not a part of the Infantry School, in example these guys wore the 3rd Army patch,, not the Infantry School's), chances are he'd be wearing the THIS WE'LL DEFEND DUI on his Shoulder Loops

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The Pennsyvania National Guard Officr Candidate School DUI, this OCS one being from at least the early 1960s. We gather it is a Black Keystone rather then Red to make it similar to the standard Army OCS patch.

 

DUI IDed by member heftaa01

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1950s 780th Field Artillery Battalion, U.S. Army Reserve in Virginia as 2nd Army Troop Unit, , called to active duty for service in Korea, serves as a X Corps Artillery Unit, kind of in limbo  after December 1954 when it leaves Korea, probably a paper unit, officially inactivated in 1955, but reactivated in 1956, and back to the Reserves under 2nd Army, inactivated under CARS in 1959. DUI adopted November 1951 when unit was in Korea.

 

DUI here is a Pin Back Meyer, Pre 1954.

 

 

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On 1/21/2022 at 9:04 PM, patches said:

The 373rd Armored Infantry Battalion, this 50s unit was a separate unit in the19th Armor Group, 7th Army

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Prior to that, the 373rd AIB was assigned to the US Constabulary, along with the 370th and 371st AIBs. 

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