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That article is useful, but I'm actively researching the dates and who did what, and when exactly. It's not as complete a history as I've just read. I'll give you examples...

 

I've been in contact with the National Commission of Fine Arts (NCFA) regarding the matter of the 1921 redesign. The historian there gave me access to the monthly meeting minutes going all the way back to 1910. There's lots to read about here: https://archive.org/details/uscommissionoffineartsminutes

 

From the Oct 4, 1918 minutes (Item #5), the War Department did approach the NCFA about reviewing all insignia and medals going forward from that date. My research shows how the WW1 Victory Medal was developed, amongst other items. However, the Aug 19, 1919 minutes (Item #5) show that the NCFA wouldn't review anything other branch insignia until the General Staff figured out exactly what they were looking for. 

 

As for Charles Livingston Bull redrawing the insignia, that's only partially true. If you look up the Sep 23, 1921 minutes (Item #9), you will read that he redrew the Quartermaster General's flag insignia. It doesn't say anything relating back to the War Department review request. All is says it that MG Moore liked it and approved it.

 

So, what about Flora F. Sherwood? All I have found so far is that she was indeed a government artist. She assisted in the artwork that became the District of Columbia flag. I need to figure out if she was in fact employed by the OQMG in Philadelphia (the QMC schoolhouse and HQ was there at the time). 

 

And, what about both of their artwork? Well, I'm trying to figure out where they are. I'll try working with the NCFA historian to see if they have at least Bull's redrawn flag. Sherwood's art could be in the National Archive, but I haven't gone down that road.

 

Is the statement correct about the 1930s. I think that's plausible. The earliest use for the head-up eagle that I've observed is on Type II collar discs for units labeled with MC, MT, and W. Bill Emerson's book states these are from the 1920s. To me that proof-positive that the design was approved in some way at some time. Exactly when and which decision is still a mystery. I'm working on it! I would guess this officer made that call: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Lovejoy_Rogers. He was a very interesting man and made big changes we still see in the modern Quartermaster Corps.

Cobra 6 Actual
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Whoa, Major Z. Thank you for all of the research you did and are still doing. Please keep posting the results! Meanwhile, here’s an armband that most people would “write off” as non-US:

 

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However, the two Korean letters under the words “ROK Marines” are “Guide” and under that the wording translates to “Northern California Marine Veterans Association”. So, some type of Marine veterans tour group visiting South Korea.

easterneagle87
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FB pic showing to MP arm bands being worn during the WW1 time frame. Sorry the descript is cut off, but it is pretty interesting if you want to look it up yourself and read more about it.

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Cobra 6 Actual
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This armband is for a Marine unit, the Truck Company of the 3rd Division Support Group:

 

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Cobra 6 Actual
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Nicely embroidered Corps of Engineers armband, but no idea of its specific function:

 

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Cobra 6 Actual
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Well, this is reaching a bit, this is from “Call of Duty”:

 

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easterneagle87
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Here is an interesting one I just saw on ebay. 91st INF on an orange arm band. Not sure what this signifies or its purpose. Something for training? Observer controller? 

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I just saw this on eBay.  I had never heard of a coutesy patrol so I looked it up on the Internet and found this definition:

 

 "Uniformed Soldiers conducting courtesy patrols will approach off-duty Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen who are conducting themselves inappropriately, confirm their identities and encourage the service members to modify their behavior."

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Did Courtesy Patrol on a Saturday night on Okinawa in 1970 in Koza. It was me, a SP4, with a SSG. We wore simple brassards with just "CP" on them. Not something I'd want to do more than once.

Cobra 6 Actual
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This is a bringback from a guy who was an advisor to the Interim Security for Critical Infrastructure (ISCI) agency. Marjah is a village in Helmand Province, Afghanistan. The program of Auxiliary Police was started in 2010.

 

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Cobra 6 Actual
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Saw this one on the Internet somewhere (on maybe on here, unfortunately, I don’t know). It’s a cool one:

 

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General Apathy
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Hi Cobra 6.

 

Thank you for keeping this thread running which our forum friend SABREJET ( Ian Phillips ) started.   Today would have been Ians 71st birthday, his wife Sian has just sent me the following photograph of her visiting one of their favourite spots and where a brass plaque commemorating Ians life sits. 

 

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regards lewis.

 

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Cobra 6 Actual
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Hello Lewis, 

 

That’s a great picture! Thank you for posting it. I haven’t posted lately since I’ve been unable to find one of my boxes that contains more armbands. Still on the hunt for it. Meanwhile, here was one that sold on eBay today and, unfortunately, I was not the high bidder:

 

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General Apathy
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Unknown armband Italy WWII . . . . . 

 

Spotted this shot on a video clip of troops disembarking in Italy. 

 

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regards lewis.

 

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Hey.  Does anyone have any basic black felt or subdude 1st Army MP brassards for sale or trade? 70/80’s

era?   Also looking for Any 50th armored brassards or other memorabilia.   Thanks 

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Thanks.  Thought thisnmight hit collectors that actually collect armbands but will give it a try

easterneagle87
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This photo was gleaned from "seanmc1114" 's postings of 11th ABN patches being worn on anther forum subject topic. 

 

PFC Walsh, Soldier of the Month.

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Cobra 6 Actual
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“Military Aide to the Governor” of Pennsylvania:

 

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5 minutes ago, Cobra 6 Actual said:

“Military Aide to the Governor” of Pennsylvania:

 

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Very nice armband Cobra 6, what era is this from?

Cobra 6 Actual
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It is from the 1950’s to early 1960’s, jmd62. Thanks for asking.

AverageJoeWWII
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Estate sale find with Army and Marine items. Anyone able to identify ? 

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