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Here is a QM oval I acquired out of an album a number of years ago. You can see the description that was with it. Has anyone seen this oval before and does the story make sense. thanks

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Hi,

Personaly, I've never heard of a specific oval for the 8081st QM Co, but this black / grey oval could be legit (anyway, that's a very rare color combination).

Evidence anyone????

Eric

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Here is a QM oval I acquired out of an album a number of years ago. You can see the description that was with it. Has anyone seen this oval before and does the story make sense. thanks

 

I've seen a lot of aerial delivery and rigger insignia over the years, but have never seen an oval attributed to the 8081st.

 

For background on the 8081st here are a couple of 1953 articles I posted on the Quartermaster Museum website several years ago:

 

http://www.qmfound.com/air_korea.htm

 

http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/korea/fly...rtermasters.htm

 

http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/korea/the...te_the_book.htm

 

Captain Cecil W. Hospelhorn, the commander of this unit appears in uniform in two period videos.

 

In this YouTube video, Enough And On Time - The Big Picture, he appears around 11:38 minutes wearing the Class A uniform, but his parachute badge doesn't appear to have an oval behind it:

 

 

In this Vimeo video I posted a few months ago for the Quartermaster Museum he is in fatigue uniform with no evidence of badges or ovals:

 

http://vimeo.com/14407956

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Here is a QM oval I acquired out of an album a number of years ago. You can see the description that was with it. Has anyone seen this oval before and does the story make sense. thanks

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This oval has been listed as an "unknown" for years. The Jan-Mar, 1969 ASMIC newsletter, and the unknown section, #32 of

Clyde Osborn's monograph on Ovals. This posting may finally begin to shed some light on it. I have one unconfirmed ID of it being the 303rd ASA, but I don't give that much hope.

Thanks again for the posting

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That is the first reference to Clyde Osborn's Oval Catalog I have seen in probably 20 or more years. You may be a new recruit here but you sure aren't a rookie. Welcome aboard.

 

I have Osborn's catalog in a binder with a similar work by David Levesque. Do you have that as well?

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That is the first reference to Clyde Osborn's Oval Catalog I have seen in probably 20 or more years. You may be a new recruit here but you sure aren't a rookie. Welcome aboard.

 

I have Osborn's catalog in a binder with a similar work by David Levesque. Do you have that as well?

 

Thanks for the welcome. No, I do not have Daves work.

Thanks again

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Thanks for the input. The 8081 oval which I posted came from an older collection of ovals I purchased . While this collector was a contributor to Bragg and Turners Para wing books I do not know where his ID on this piece came from. I had once seen a reference to this piece in an ASMIC article by Les Hughes. He had interviewed a veteran of this unit and his recollection was their oval was all black. The mystery continues

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Les Hughes wrote a article (July-September 1986 ASMIC Trading Post) on the Unit and there insignia. The jump wing oval worn by the unit was solid black.

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According to Hudspeath book on Beret insignia, I know it's not an oval but they usually matched, a flash with Gray center and black boarder is for the 3rd BDE, 1st Cav Div.

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1SG_1st_Cav

The only Airborne Brigade of the 1st Cavalry Division was the 1st Brigade. How can you make a correlation between a flash and an oval? The 3rd Brigade was never Airborne. Danny

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The 3rd Bde 1st Cav Div FLASH, this bit of insignia would only be in a form of a flash and worn on the Black beret. Like the majority of unit flashes of this type ie for units not on Jump or Air Assault status, it would not have a matching oval.

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firefighter

I always thought the flash would match the oval.I have an oval list somewhere but can't put my fingers on itDriving me crazy.

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The 549th was an Air Delivery unit from circa 1956 until inactivation in 1974. They were based in Japan (assigned the Far East Command).

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