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This emblem is on a hat in my collection. I took it off the other day and was surprised to see how it is marked. Comments? S/F Bob

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BTW.....I did some net searches for Hilborn-Hamburger and found that they are still in business and now located in Passaic, NJ. Interestingly, In May of this year they were fined $251,000 in Federal Court for making substandard military insignia! I was wondering whether or not they might be cooperative in answering questions about the old days and perhaps helping us understand their 1920s/1930s Hallmarks and the acquistion of the Imperial brand. Anybody near Passaic NJ willing to take a shot? Hmmmmm?

Bob

 

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"I have only two men out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (Message sent by 1st Lt. Clifton B. Cates. USMC, 96th Co., Soissons, 19 July 1918 - later 19th Commandant of the Marine Corps 1948-1952)

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Excellent idea! I doubt they will have much, most companies don't seem to have kept very good records of that type of thing it seems. I also collect pipes and it is often damn hard to date them, even if the company has records they often kept using old stamps for a while after new ones came out.

 

It's interesting to see the H's outside of the eagle with that early and pre-WW2 rope fouling configuration. I'm very interested in seeing what H&H might have to say.

 

Jeremiah

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Bob,

 

Just goes to show that when you think you might be getting a handle on H-H hallmarks, this hallmark pops up on a dress emblem. Totally out of place! For those who aren't aware of this, this is the hallmark, with the H-H outside and below the eagle, that is always found on and associated with H-H bronze service emblems of this type. Here is the proof that Hillborn and Hamburger used a much more complicated hallmarking system than any of us realized.

 

Maybe we're all overthinking the H-H hallmarking system and it was something as simple as using the hallmark stamp that was closest to the workbench? think.gif

 

Kurt A lives in NJ. Maybe he can visit and find out if H-H kept their old records. It will be interesting to see what comes of that.

 

Super nice emblem and hallmark, Bob!

 

s/f, Gary

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Now that's a good one... Anyway, at some point in the future we may very well end up copying many of these "hallmarks" and refitting them into a new format for the Hallmarks section of the Reference area... just so that we can have a clean "catalog" so to speak w/o the other clutter associated with a thread? think.gif


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