HarmanBooks Posted December 17, 2010 Share #1 Posted December 17, 2010 Here is another patch I need some advice on. Does anyone recognize this one? I think it might be a very good patch and I'm pretty excited about it. Thanks in advance for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Signor Posted December 17, 2010 Share #2 Posted December 17, 2010 Possibly a "variation" of the 5th Marine Division or Brigade, maybe early ww-2 possibly WW-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steverino Posted December 17, 2010 Share #3 Posted December 17, 2010 Possibly a "variation" of the 5th Marine Division or Brigade, maybe early ww-2 possibly WW-1. The star pattern suggests the Southern Cross as would be seen in the Southwest Pacific area where the Marines did their thing early on in the war. The "patch" could also have been cut out of a pennant or some other souvenir?? Patch Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarmanBooks Posted December 18, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted December 18, 2010 Thanks, it is made of either wool or felt, I cannot tell which for certain. It was found in an old scrapbook. I think you are right about the Southern Cross, but what sort of pennant would it be from? The star pattern suggests the Southern Cross as would be seen in the Southwest Pacific area where the Marines did their thing early on in the war. The "patch" could also have been cut out of a pennant or some other souvenir?? Patch Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted December 18, 2010 Share #5 Posted December 18, 2010 could just be a PX souveneir circa WWII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted December 18, 2010 Share #6 Posted December 18, 2010 I'm not an expert,but when I look at it,it seems older than WW2,maybe pre WW2, but after WW1?I'm wondering what the gold thing in the Eagles mouth is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarmanBooks Posted December 18, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted December 18, 2010 It looks like some sort of bird, maybe a seagull or a dove? Here is the reverse so you might be able to get a better idea of its age. You can see where it was attached to the scrapbook page. I'm not an expert,but when I look at it,it seems older than WW2,maybe pre WW2, but after WW1?I'm wondering what the gold thing in the Eagles mouth is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrapneldude Posted December 18, 2010 Share #8 Posted December 18, 2010 I think the thing in the mouth is a banner that reads "Semper Fidelis" of course it can't be produced in such a small size, but in all other USMC flags and stamps where the eagle has something in his mouth, it's the Semper FI banner, either on one banner he's holding the end of, or a banner he's holding in the center that waves outward to either side. Semper Fidelis banner is visible here. WWII Marine HBT's had the 2-way EGA banner And with the 4 stars, it looks a LOT like the USMC Commandant's staff flag. Not sure if any of this helps, but my take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted December 18, 2010 Share #9 Posted December 18, 2010 I think the thing in the mouth is a banner that reads "Semper Fidelis" of course it can't be produced in such a small size, but in all other USMC flags and stamps where the eagle has something in his mouth, it's the Semper FI banner, either on one banner he's holding the end of, or a banner he's holding in the center that waves outward to either side. Semper Fidelis banner is visible here. WWII Marine HBT's had the 2-way EGA banner And with the 4 stars, it looks a LOT like the USMC Commandant's staff flag. Not sure if any of this helps, but my take on it. OK,that makes sense,since the maker was'nt too concerned with details,maybe this is some sort of PX "novelty" type patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted December 18, 2010 Share #10 Posted December 18, 2010 ....maybe this is some sort of PX "novelty" type patch I would agree, these "types" have been sold in the Army-Navy stores for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Signor Posted December 18, 2010 Share #11 Posted December 18, 2010 just my opinion, but I wouldn't write it off too fast as a "PX" patch, note that the star formation has one star smaller than the rest and the usual area of the "globe" with land masses is not there , I still think this signifies some "specific" unit/div/corp/brigade type , just one not normally seen or an odd short lived type . I'm also thinking post WW-1 and possibly pre-WW2 by the way it's made . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarmanBooks Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share #12 Posted December 19, 2010 I would agree, these "types" have been sold in the Army-Navy stores for a long time. Thank you for all your answers. You've been very helpful. I see what you mean about the "Semper Fidelis.." I feel silly now for not thinking of that. :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normaninvasion Posted December 19, 2010 Share #13 Posted December 19, 2010 I believe the 5 stars represent the Southern Cross constellation, this formation is seen ob 1st and 2nd MarDv patches, making it a ww2 or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted December 19, 2010 Share #14 Posted December 19, 2010 OK,next question?How big is this patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarmanBooks Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share #15 Posted December 19, 2010 It measures 4.25" x 3.75" OK,next question?How big is this patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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