Patchcollector Posted December 3, 2010 Share #1 Posted December 3, 2010 I'm hoping that someone here can help me ID this patch.It came in the original Ace Novelty package, and there is a 1963/64 calender inside,so that pretty much dates it.I got this years ago,found a website about it, and now have forgotten the info about the patch and unit.There's a blue fox riding on a log with a volcano erupting in the background.Any info would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Patchcollector Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted December 3, 2010 I remember there was something about the "flying log",maybe having to do with the way the aircraft performed?Might this be the 18th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron? Also,there was something to do about the blindfold as well.And the bomb.Maybe a Fighter-Bomber Squadron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QED4 Posted December 3, 2010 Share #8 Posted December 3, 2010 It is a Navy Squadron but for the life of me I can't remember which one nor can I find it. They were called the Blue Foxes and flew out of the Aleutians during WWII which is why the fox is blindfolded, because of the bad weather and zero visibility and he is riding on a flying gas tank. I can remember everything but the unit, but it should point you in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted December 3, 2010 Thanks QED,yes,that does sound familiar,but for some reason I was thinking that the Fox was riding on a tree trunk! :lol: I also thought that they were an Air Force unit, I guess because of the 18th TFS out of Alaska.I remember after reading online about the unit,I was puzzled,because the unit designation did not match the date on the calender in the package.Now I'm beginning to wonder if this is even an Ace Novelty made patch,or did someone maybe place it in the package,as the package was already opened when I received the patch. I sure would like to find that website again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share #10 Posted December 3, 2010 Found it!!It is VPB-135!This patch dates from 1944-1948!!!!Here's some info: Squadron Insignia and Nickname Patrol Squadron 17F was established at FAB Seattle, Wash., in 1937. The insignia submitted by VP-17 to the Bureau of Aeronautics was approved on 16 November 1938. Since most of the squadron’s activities took place in Alaskan waters, a lion seal was chosen as the central figure. The outline of the insignia was circular, with the seal in the center balancing a bomb on it nose. Colors: outline of in- signia, black; background, white; seal, black; and bomb, black. There were no letters or numbers on the insignia designating the squadron. The squadron’s first insignia The original design was used a seal, indicative of its retained until VP-42 was operations in Alaskan waters. redesignated VB-135 in 1943. The squadron members began the pro- cess for requesting a new insignia more in keeping with their cur- rent mission, but the new design was not ap- proved until 30 August 1944. Shortly thereafter, the squadron was again redesignated and the new insignia was In 1944 the squadron’s second in- signia, the fox, was approved. adopted by VPB-135. It represented the blind flying common over Alaskan waters and the Aleutians, while the cane was the radar used to find the target. The Mae West indicated that most of the missions were conducted over water. Colors: field, bright orange circled in black; fox, blue, outlined in black; tongue, red; tip of tail, white; Mae West, bright orange with black letters; package of ma- chine guns, white with black outlines and black mark- ings; machine guns, white with black outlines and markings; cane, black; flying gas tank, bright yellow with black outlines and markings; bomb, jade green; clouds, white outlined in black; volcano, royal blue with white top; and corner of field, royal blue. This design was retained when VPB-135 was redesignated VP-ML-5 in 1946. The fox theme was continued in the third version of the squadron insignia when the VP-ML-5 became VP-5 in 1948. There was no record of the date the new in- signia was approved. The design was circular, with a central cartoon fox holding a sledgehammer in its raised right fist, preparing to strike a periscope emerg- ing from the Atlantic area of the northern hemisphere of a globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearmon Posted December 3, 2010 Share #11 Posted December 3, 2010 I have not seen ACE patches on twill with cheese cloth before normally they ae fully embroidered and have the Ace Patch attached to the reverse side of the path. (if they are in new condition) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share #12 Posted December 3, 2010 Sorry about the text format,I got this from a PDF.Here's the site with a picture of the patch: Click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share #13 Posted December 3, 2010 Yes Bearmon,I have always seen the tag on the back too,this patch dates from 1944-48!!!!!It was a PBY unit that transitioned to the PV-1 Ventura.They flew combat OPS against Japan!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamski Posted December 3, 2010 Share #14 Posted December 3, 2010 Sweet! Well done on the ID and patch! -Ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share #15 Posted December 3, 2010 Thanks everyone,for all the help! :bravo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Signor Posted December 3, 2010 Share #16 Posted December 3, 2010 You beat me to the punch on the ID and yes it is correct ID at that , great find ! Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share #17 Posted September 28, 2016 You beat me to the punch on the ID and yes it is correct ID at that , great find ! Johnny Thanks Johnny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share #18 Posted September 28, 2016 If possible,could one of the moderators please rename this thread "VPB-135 patch",and move it to the Navy patch section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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