after the war US Army Nazi hunting teams where they real or fake

[henry2]

i was watching a movie that was made in the mid 80s era about a group of US Army Intelligence personal who hunted the diff Nazi that the other groups inside the OSS was trying to help.escape the hangmen nose at Nuremberg .the teams where trained to hunt the Nazi who had not been found at the time of the Nuremberg trials .. the time is from the years of middle of 45 to the 47 time frame then it was disbanded by the Army after the Cia came on line

 

in the movie the teams where formed after the battle of the bulge that once the Army knew they where winning the war and the people in the unit where pulled from diff units and given special training and they all spoke French German and Italian and engish along with weapons training

 

the movie takes place all over Europe in and around Germany and Switzeland and Austria and they are looking for some of the players in the Nazi government ..

 

so do think they where real ?

[tsakers85]

I don't know about "American Nazi Hunters," so someone with more knowledge than me would have to comment on that. The film may be loosely based on fact though. The Israeli's went to Argentina to capture Adolf Adolf Eichmann.

[teufelhund]

I don't know about "American Nazi Hunters," so someone with more knowledge than me would have to comment on that. The film may be loosely based on fact though. The Israeli's went to Argentina to capture Adolf Adolf Eichmann.

And the Americans got Werner von Braun & some others nazi scientists

T

[Manchu Warrior]

And the Americans got Werner von Braun & some others nazi scientists

T

The only difference being that von Braun was not being hunted he was being hired.

[henry2]

the whole thing was these people went after the socalled worst of the nazi goverment for the war crimes in the movie the OSS was the biggest problem for the OSS was hideing some of the Nazi personal in American camps waiting to ship them to the states side to help with the effort with the war and after the war..

[El Bibliotecario]

The only difference being that von Braun was not being hunted he was being hired.

 

My thought as well...most American 'nazi' hunters were armed with employment contracts. Visit the White Sands Missle Range Museum--most of the folks in their hall of fame of American missile history have names prefixed by 'von.'

 

(an editoral aside-- in the above remark I put 'nazi' in quotes because I am sick of yammerers labeling every Hitler era german as 'nazi' I am no apologist for the National Socialist era, but I find the blanket 'nazi' label sophmoric, and akin to asserting that every GI who served in WW2 was a registered Democrat.

[kriegsmodell]

The only difference being that von Braun was not being hunted he was being hired.

 

 

OSS "Operation Paperclip" Lots of information on the internet and several books. One has to use caution as some of the material strays into fringe conspiracy but make no mistake the program was real ......

[henry2]

I went and talked to old timers at the local VFW post and he pointed me towards this one guy at another post so went over and bought lunch and few drinks and he told what he had done in the Army dureing the war and after the war in Germany and he told me that there where major problems between the OSS and the military police and intelligence personal who where hunting the socalled people on the list had run in with the OSS people a couple of times when they where about to arrest of of the people on the list ..

 

He was a Army counter intelligence officer who retired from the army in 65 era after 25 years in the army he had the rank of Colonel when he retired out ..he could speak four langauges and german and french where two of the langauges that he spoke plus liveing in France as a boy when growing up there with his mom and dad beening American citizens who lived in france for a time beening came home right before the war started with Germany ..so he spent a lot time in and in the Europe area liveing and working after the war

 

The guy was in Europe from 1941 to around 1948 or 49 era and he did make a few comments about some of the people seam to just dispear in mid air when the OSS found out we where looking for them right after the war and in the years of 46 and 47 era .

 

He also said that they socalled calling everyone in Germany after 33 a nazi was a right on.. The german people knew what they where getting into when Hilter came to power in the 33 ..He basically said that you could not get anywhere inside Germany from 33 and on without have some connection to the party and after the war they where all standing up and saying we where not nazi ..He goes that was all BS that they where saying after the war ..

 

If you wanted a job in the city you had to belong to the party or a job with the forrest service you had to belong to the party ..He told he had interviewed so many of them that he started to say that he could do there song and dance without a seeing them in the interview room ..They will try to tell you that they did not know what was going inside Germany after 43 and on ..The people knew that people where beening taken by the police and other units and never to be seen again and he told that was one b,s lie that they where telling the people after the war the US was trying to keep it togerther just in case that they had to deal with russia .

 

He also said that Patton was right on about Russia and we should armed the germans and went and kicked there butt out of countrys that they had taken all way back to the Russia borders and thats where the iron curtian should have started across Europe

[billl]

On 12/6/2010 at 10:24 AM, henry2 said:

I went and talked to old timers at the local VFW post and he pointed me towards this one guy at another post so went over and bought lunch and few drinks and he told what he had done in the Army dureing the war and after the war in Germany and he told me that there where major problems between the OSS and the military police and intelligence personal who where hunting the socalled people on the list had run in with the OSS people a couple of times when they where about to arrest of of the people on the list ..

 

He was a Army counter intelligence officer who retired from the army in 65 era after 25 years in the army he had the rank of Colonel when he retired out ..he could speak four langauges and german and french where two of the langauges that he spoke plus liveing in France as a boy when growing up there with his mom and dad beening American citizens who lived in france for a time beening came home right before the war started with Germany ..so he spent a lot time in and in the Europe area liveing and working after the war

 

The guy was in Europe from 1941 to around 1948 or 49 era and he did make a few comments about some of the people seam to just dispear in mid air when the OSS found out we where looking for them right after the war and in the years of 46 and 47 era .

 

He also said that they socalled calling everyone in Germany after 33 a nazi was a right on.. The german people knew what they where getting into when Hilter came to power in the 33 ..He basically said that you could not get anywhere inside Germany from 33 and on without have some connection to the party and after the war they where all standing up and saying we where not nazi ..He goes that was all BS that they where saying after the war ..

 

If you wanted a job in the city you had to belong to the party or a job with the forrest service you had to belong to the party ..He told he had interviewed so many of them that he started to say that he could do there song and dance without a seeing them in the interview room ..They will try to tell you that they did not know what was going inside Germany after 43 and on ..The people knew that people where beening taken by the police and other units and never to be seen again and he told that was one b,s lie that they where telling the people after the war the US was trying to keep it togerther just in case that they had to deal with russia .

 

He also said that Patton was right on about Russia and we should armed the germans and went and kicked there butt out of countrys that they had taken all way back to the Russia borders and thats where the iron curtian should have started across Europe

Your interviewee was kinda right, and kinda overstating.  There were 70 million people in Germany in 1940.  At its peak the party had perhaps 8.5 million members. So not every fireman or forester was a party member. Lucky you to have met him.  Thanks for sharing.

[439th Signal Battalion]

On 12/2/2010 at 9:02 AM, teufelhund said:

And the Americans got Werner von Braun & some others nazi scientists

T

Of which a few/several went to work with what would become  NASA from what I understand. 

[439th Signal Battalion]

13 hours ago, billl said:

Your interviewee was kinda right, and kinda overstating.  There were 70 million people in Germany in 1940.  At its peak the party had perhaps 8.5 million members. So not every fireman or forester was a party member. Lucky you to have met him.  Thanks for sharing.

While in college, I sat in on a community gathering of folks who had either served during WWII or had worked in wartime production roles.  At the beginning of the talk, each person in attendance introduced themselves, etc., etc.  At the end was a gentlemen, then in his late 70's, who stated, "My name is COL Albert B________.  I retired as a Colonel and am a combat veteran of three wars.  I was in two of the battles studied by the Army war college. 

 

After lots of interesting conversation and stories, the moderator changed course and began to discuss the end of the war and everyone's postwar plans.  COL B________ stated,  "at the end of WWII, I was detailed with a small group to find out exactly what happened to Erwin Rommel."  He never spoke of that any further and I have always wondered what evidence that team may have found, if any. 

[billl]

By chance, I happened to be in D.C. when they inaugurated the WWII Memorial. Too late, I found out that a paratrooper from the 505 was there and I could

have talked to him.  I won't let the chances go by again...

 

Rommel's end is pretty well documented.  Fascinating story.  Of course, who knows what info is buried in our military files, and in people's memories.

[gwb123]

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[manayunkman]

I knew a CIC agent in Carlisle, PA.

 

All he did was track down Nazis.

 

He was a country judge named Schugart.

 

He had a collection of infamy.