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Greetings Forum Members,

While metal detecting, I found this bullet in an old park in Davenport, Iowa. I would appreciate some help in trying to identify whether or not it is from the CW Era. It is Just under .5" in Diameter, 1 3/16" Tall, Flat Bottomed, Two Ringer and has an unusual sharp conical tip. Any help in identifying this bullet and the era it is from would be greatly appreciated.

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Chuck

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Chuck,

I am afraid that a picture here would be worth a thousand words. It is really impossible to tell from that statement. With that being said, if it is a dug bullet from that era, it will be made of lead and thus, should be almost white encrusted with lead oxide. Flat base bullets are very rare as we went from mostly sperical balls, straight to the minie ball round that has a cavity in the base. It is possible that this is a modern era bullet from a hand gun, quite hard to tell without a picture.

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Chuck,

I am afraid that a picture here would be worth a thousand words. It is really impossible to tell from that statement. With that being said, if it is a dug bullet from that era, it will be made of lead and thus, should be almost white encrusted with lead oxide. Flat base bullets are very rare as we went from mostly sperical balls, straight to the minie ball round that has a cavity in the base. It is possible that this is a modern era bullet from a hand gun, quite hard to tell without a picture.

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That white powdery looking material is from the lead being buried for some time, so it is old. From the look of it, I'm going to guess that it is black powder and with a flat base like that, I would also guess that it is a hand made hunting round. The moulds to make concave bases are somewhat intricate and thus not as available to the average citizenry back in "the" day. As to what caliber, I would venture to guess that since it is smaller than .50 and the length, it may be a pistol bullet, it would help if you could mic the diameter. If nothing else, get a tape measure and put it on the tape up against one of the even inches.


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Civil War era bullets I have also have the same amount/type of oxidation on them.You may try to compare it to the CW era bullets if there are examples on line.

Possibly a .44 cal pistol round??I recall my dad hving a two cavity mould with one of his reproduction Colt Army pistols.One was a ball cavity and the other conical.

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If it was an authentic CW bullet, the oxidation would have turned into a 'shell' over the entire bullet (think 'thick coating'). Since its a solid base and not a hollow base, it would not have been loaded from the muzzle (unable to expand upon firing).

 

Its the "...just under .5 inches..." that is odd. There were Breechloading calibers at .50. How much '...just under...' are we talking here?

 

Also, the pointed shape of the round doesn't seen CW like. In addition, you say it 1 3/16" tall. Doesn't look that tall in the pics. Did you mean perhaps 13/16" tall?

 

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How about a .46 caliber rimfire? Fired by the 1858 Remington metallic cartridge conversions.

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Are you sure about your measurements??? If it does have a diameter of ,5”, it does not appear to be that ‘tall’ (length). Do I understand correctly, it is a flat base??

 

Keith maybe close, does the bullet have a length (tall) of about 0.075” ????

 

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Chuckciao

 

Are you sure about your measurements??? If it does have a diameter of ,5”, it does not appear to be that ‘tall’ (length). Do I understand correctly, it is a flat base??

 

Keith maybe close, does the bullet have a length (tall) of about 0.075” ????

 

45B20

 

A true mic of the diameter would help and do you know the weight of the projectile? Also, it has a similar shape to projectiles fired from the Smith Carbine Cal 50.

 

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Forum Members,

Thanks for your informative replies. To clarify, it is 13/16" tall. Sorry about not having a precise measurement for the diameter but I do not have a micrometer. I will try to get more accurate measurements and weight and get back to you.

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Chuck

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Thanks for your informative replies. To clarify, it is 13/16" tall. Sorry about not having a precise measurement for the diameter but I do not have a micrometer. I will try to get more accurate measurements and weight and get back to you.

Thanks

Chuck

 

You don't need a micrometer, as I said earlier, just sit the bullet on a tape measure, we can determine caliber from that as caliber is hundreths of an inch. So, 4/16" is 1/4 inch or .25 caliber. 3/8" is just over .37 caliber.


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What old park in Davenport did you dig it at? I lived there for 30 years. Was it in the Village of East Davenport? Camp McClellan used to be there and was huge.

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That's definately not from a Smith Carbine, and the bullet is too pointed to come out of a Colt mold, have one right here i'm looking at. Will try to come up with an answer though.

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