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For what ever it's worth, my favorite scene is when Neville Brand throws the copy of "Mein Kemf" at William Holden, and he never even flinched. That was a heck of a throw, and really close to Holden's head. No stunt doubles there. SKIP

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It's a great movie. They picked on Holden a little too much, so it was easy to guess he wasn't the guy.

But I never gussed that it was Matt Dillon, :emba0005: (can't think of his name) either.

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It's a great movie. They picked on Holden a little too much, so it was easy to guess he wasn't the guy.

But I never gussed that it was Matt Dillon, :emba0005: (can't think of his name) either.

 

Wasn't it .... SPOILER ALERT ............................................................ Peter Graves?

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Wasn't it .... SPOILER ALERT ............................................................ Peter Graves?

Thank you........boy I felt dumb. :lol:

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And Peter Graves didn't play Matt Dillon, James Arness did.

Scott

It's not my day!!

Let me put the hat back on. :emba0005:

I deserve it. :w00t:

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+1 on the classic. I'll stop down and watch it every time I run across it on TV.

 

My favorite scene:

 

Bagradian stands on a stool giving a lecture to some thirty

P.O.W.s, all of them with their backs towards Schulz.

Bagradian's face cannot be seen as he holds the Mein Kampf

book in front of it. Schulz listens for a little while to

Bagradian's ranting and raving. Then he stamps his foot.

 

SCHULTZ

Gentlemen! Gentlemen! Attention!

 

Bagradian lowers the book. He too is made up as Hitler. He

raises his arm in the Nazi salute.

 

BAGRADIAN

Heil, Hitler!

 

SCHULTZ

(responding

automatically)

Heil, Hitler!

 

He catches himself, lowers the arm.

 

SCHULTZ

(jovially)

Droppen Sie dead.

 

BAGRADIAN

(a la Hitler)

Quiet! We are indoctrinating!

(to the others)

Is you all indoctrinated?

 

P.O.W.S

(in unison)

Jawohl.

 

BAGRADIAN

Is you all good Nazis?

 

P.O.W.S

Jawohl.

 

BAGRADIAN

Is you all little Adolfs?

 

P.O.W.S

Jawohl!

 

BAGRADIAN

Then we shall all zalute Feldwebel

von und zu Schulz! About face!

 

The P.O.W.s wheel around and face Schulz. They are all made

up as Hitler.

 

P.O.W.S

Sieg heil! Sieg heil! Sieg Heil!

 

After each 'Sieg heil' they raise their arms in salute.

 

SCHULTZ

Ach! One Fuehrer is enough! Now

please, gentlemen! Take off the

mustaches immediately. Or do you

want me arrested by the Gestapo?

 

P.O.W.S

Jawohl!

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+1 on the classic. I'll stop down and watch it every time I run across it on TV.

 

My favorite scene:

 

Bagradian stands on a stool giving a lecture to some thirty

P.O.W.s, all of them with their backs towards Schulz.

Bagradian's face cannot be seen as he holds the Mein Kampf

book in front of it. Schulz listens for a little while to

Bagradian's ranting and raving. Then he stamps his foot.

 

SCHULTZ

Gentlemen! Gentlemen! Attention!

 

Bagradian lowers the book. He too is made up as Hitler. He

raises his arm in the Nazi salute.

 

BAGRADIAN

Heil, Hitler!

 

Hi CJ & Troy, thanks for reminding me of the film and some of it's scenes, must try and get a copy, it's been so long since I saw it. Thanks :thumbsup:

 

lewis

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+1 on the classic. I'll stop down and watch it every time I run across it on TV.

 

My favorite scene:

 

Bagradian stands on a stool giving a lecture to some thirty

P.O.W.s, all of them with their backs towards Schulz.

Bagradian's face cannot be seen as he holds the Mein Kampf

book in front of it. Schulz listens for a little while to

Bagradian's ranting and raving. Then he stamps his foot.

 

SCHULTZ

Gentlemen! Gentlemen! Attention!

 

Bagradian lowers the book. He too is made up as Hitler. He

raises his arm in the Nazi salute.

 

BAGRADIAN

Heil, Hitler!

 

SCHULTZ

(responding

automatically)

Heil, Hitler!

 

He catches himself, lowers the arm.

 

SCHULTZ

(jovially)

Droppen Sie dead.

 

BAGRADIAN

(a la Hitler)

Quiet! We are indoctrinating!

(to the others)

Is you all indoctrinated?

 

P.O.W.S

(in unison)

Jawohl.

 

BAGRADIAN

Is you all good Nazis?

 

P.O.W.S

Jawohl.

 

BAGRADIAN

Is you all little Adolfs?

 

P.O.W.S

Jawohl!

 

BAGRADIAN

Then we shall all zalute Feldwebel

von und zu Schulz! About face!

 

The P.O.W.s wheel around and face Schulz. They are all made

up as Hitler.

 

P.O.W.S

Sieg heil! Sieg heil! Sieg Heil!

 

After each 'Sieg heil' they raise their arms in salute.

 

SCHULTZ

Ach! One Fuehrer is enough! Now

please, gentlemen! Take off the

mustaches immediately. Or do you

want me arrested by the Gestapo?

 

P.O.W.S

Jawohl!

That's my favorite part as well. Great movie!

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Don't forget the 2 buddies going to the women's showers together with paint brush and can in hand and they got away with it.

awesome scene! Animal and Harry! Olga on the Volga! :lol:

Terry

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The fact that a lot of the cast were veterans, and that the play itself was written by vets and ex-POWs is quite important to remember. William Holden's brother was a Navy pilot and was KIA in January 1945. Peter Graves (Price) and Don Taylor (Lt. Dunbar) were in the USAAF during the war. Neville Brand (Duke) was in the 83rd Infantry Division, and was decorated with a Silver Star, Purple Heart, and a CIB (to name a few). Harvey Lembeck (Harry Shapiro) was also in the US Army during WWII.

 

I am not positive , but I also think that at least Edmund Trzcinski and maybe even Donald Bevan (the original playwrights) were actually in a POW camp during the war.

 

All things to keep in mind when watching and enjoying the film.

 

-John C.

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I own it on DVD, one of my top 5 favorite war movies, ranks up there with the Great Escape.

 

Back in 1995 when I was working on the UN HQ staff in Haiti I had my wife mail mail my VHS copy of it. I had recorded off of TV months before, but never watched it. All of the US military members of the UN staff were billeted in the same aging Haitian hotel and entertainment was limited. So I played it one night in the TV in the lounge. Within 30 minutes of the start of the move there was a standing room only crowd. Things were going great until the end... the tape ran out before the the last crucial 10 minutes of the movie. I was nearly lynched by the angry crowd.

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Stalag 17 is still one of my all time favorite movies. That's why, when I ran across the book The Flame Keepers by Ned Handy, I had to read it. Ned Handy was a crewman on a B-24 that was shot down. He was sent to sit out the rest of the war at Stalag 17. I looked through the MACRs on FOLD3 to see if I can find the report on his crew and it is there. I am almost finished with the book and it has been an excellent account describing the lives of the POWs.

 

Below is information from Amazon ( http://www.amazon.com/The-Flame-Keepers-American-Soldiers/dp/0786868791)

 

The Flame Keepers: The True Story of an American Soldier's Survival Inside Stalag 17

 

Ned Handy was captured by Germans in April 1944, after his B-24 was shot down. Sent to Stalag 17, the infamous Nazi prison camp, Handy soon led an escape team determined to tunnel to freedom. Along with the unforgettable comrades he vividly describes, Handy worked relentlessly for months on a tunnel that was to prove instrumental in saving the lives of four fugitives sought by the Gestapo. One of those fugitives would become the only American ever to escape permanently from Stalag 17.

The Flame Keepers is a vivid first-hand account of an American soldier's experience as a prisoner of war in Nazi Germany and a poignant portrait of the POWs who worked to survive within the wire and their German captors. Illustrated with original photographs taken inside the camp from a smuggled camera and published for the first time in the trade press, The Flame Keepers recounts one of World War II's great untold stories.

 

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