ScottG Posted February 6 #51 Posted February 6 WWI US Navy Sailor ID: United States Shipping Board USSB I received this from another museum clean out yesterday and aside from being navy, I have no idea of the time period or what it actually is. As you can see the bib has only two stripes so it isn't something I am familiar with. Any help to i.d. it is greatly appreciated. My opinion is WWI but the two stripes are throwing me off. Thank you, Scott.
29navy Posted February 7 #52 Posted February 7 The stripe is missing because someone removed it. We (USN) didn't have two stripes. Does it have any tags? It could be between WWI and 1944.
ScottG Posted February 7 #53 Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, 29navy said: The stripe is missing because someone removed it. We (USN) didn't have two stripes. Does it have any tags? It could be between WWI and 1944. Nope, nothing removed and there are no stripes at the cuffs and never were. Its really an odd piece. Thanks for the input though. Scott
KurtA Posted February 7 #54 Posted February 7 Seaman 2nd Class. Prior to WW2 or so, the # of stripes indicated the rate. One Stripe: Apprentice Seaman Two Stripes: Seaman 2nd Class Three Stripes: Seaman 1st Class or Petty Officer
DD937 Posted February 7 #55 Posted February 7 Can we see the cuffs? My guess would be USSB United States Shipping Board. The enlisted sailors wore jumpers with two rows of pipping on the flap and cuffs. It's most likely impossible to say but maybe the recruits had to earn the pipping on the on the cuffs like USN recruits/apprentices/ seaman did as Kurt noted. A none rated USSB sailor would have two rows of tape/pipping on the cuffs and a DM on the sleeve, Petty Officers wore a rate badge like USN but the eagle was replaced by a USSB logo.
ScottG Posted February 7 #56 Posted February 7 12 minutes ago, DD937 said: Can we see the cuffs? My guess would be USSB United States Shipping Board. The enlisted sailors wore jumpers with two rows of pipping on the flap and cuffs. It's most likely impossible to say but maybe the recruits had to earn the pipping on the on the cuffs like USN recruits/apprentices/ seaman did as Kurt noted. A none rated USSB sailor would have two rows of tape/pipping on the cuffs and a DM on the sleeve, Petty Officers wore a rate badge like USN but the eagle was replaced by a USSB logo. Interesting information, the jumper is at the museum and I am at home, but there are no stripes on the cuffs and no ghosting or stitch marks indicating there ever were any. Thanks for the lead and perhaps solving what this is. Scott
QED4 Posted February 7 #57 Posted February 7 It could be a Middy Blouse, a popular fashion item around WWI.
DD937 Posted February 8 #58 Posted February 8 Most Middys were meant to mimic USN and had three rows of tape and a makers tag.
29navy Posted February 12 #59 Posted February 12 On 2/6/2026 at 9:37 PM, KurtA said: Seaman 2nd Class. Prior to WW2 or so, the # of stripes indicated the rate. One Stripe: Apprentice Seaman Two Stripes: Seaman 2nd Class Three Stripes: Seaman 1st Class or Petty Officer That was on the cuffs of the dress blues.
Salvage Sailor Posted March 16 #60 Posted March 16 Nope Note the Two Rows of original piping on the Bib. Dead giveway to the ID - United States Shipping Board (USSB) Uniform There ya go
sigsaye Posted March 16 #61 Posted March 16 15 hours ago, Salvage Sailor said: Nope Note the Two Rows of original piping on the Bib. Dead giveway to the ID - United States Shipping Board (USSB) Uniform There ya go Agree! There’s a whole thread on these.
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