turmanator Posted September 23, 2010 Share #1 Posted September 23, 2010 Anybody have and good pictures of the HBT Army camos? A local Surpluse store has a Lg top for $50.00 in good condition and I want to make sure it is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shocktrooper15 Posted September 23, 2010 Share #2 Posted September 23, 2010 Heres a topic with some good photos: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...amp;hl=HBT+camo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turmanator Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted September 24, 2010 Did these have snaps or buttons? This one has big light green plastic "hidden" buttons If I remeber correctly it also has a gas flap. Does this sound right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIJive Posted September 24, 2010 Share #4 Posted September 24, 2010 Did these have snaps or buttons? This one has big light green plastic "hidden" buttonsIf I remeber correctly it also has a gas flap. Does this sound right? Yes, WWII Army camouflage uniforms had hidden plastic buttons and a gas flap. The buttons, however; were usually various shades of brown, not green. The only green plastic buttons I have seen were on reproductions made by ATF some years ago. I am not saying that no WWII Army camouflage uniforms didn't have a green shaded button, I have just never seen green buttons on an original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turmanator Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share #5 Posted September 24, 2010 These are kind of a mustardy-green color. So, if all is well is the top worth $50.00? Seems in good shape, just a little fading, but even fading. I really want it, but that can be a bad thing. Also, how many pockets did they have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Nek Posted September 24, 2010 Share #6 Posted September 24, 2010 These are kind of a mustardy-green color.So, if all is well is the top worth $50.00? Seems in good shape, just a little fading, but even fading. I really want it, but that can be a bad thing. Also, how many pockets did they have? Be sure and test the jacket. There are a few repros out there that will fool even the experienced collector once they have been aged. The tops had 2 chest pockets. The buttons are usually brown in color, but the greens could be late war or replacements. If it's original, $50 is a steal. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turmanator Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted September 24, 2010 Be sure and test the jacket. There are a few repros out there that will fool even the experienced collector once they have been aged. The tops had 2 chest pockets. The buttons are usually brown in color, but the greens could be late war or replacements. If it's original, $50 is a steal. Dave Do repros have Gas Flaps? And what kind of tag should I see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjones5452 Posted September 24, 2010 Share #8 Posted September 24, 2010 Have you tried asking the people at the store about it? There might be a slim chance that they'll tell you if it's reproed. My thinking is if it's been there a while that might be what it is. Never know till you try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turmanator Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted September 24, 2010 Have you tried asking the people at the store about it? There might be a slim chance that they'll tell you if it'sreproed. My thinking is if it's been there a while that might be what it is. Never know till you try. I actually "know" the guy. He is at some of our reenactments and such but is kinda an "odd bird" so I don't know how much I would trust his answers, or if he knows whether they are real or not .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIJive Posted September 24, 2010 Share #10 Posted September 24, 2010 Do repros have Gas Flaps? And what kind of tag should I see? The reproductions ATF made several years ago had gas flaps. There should be a tag in the neck stating the size: 38, 40, 42, etc. Original WWII Army camouflage hbt jackets were not marked Medium, Large, Extra Large, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjones5452 Posted September 24, 2010 Share #11 Posted September 24, 2010 I actually "know" the guy. He is at some of our reenactments and such but is kinda an "odd bird" so Idon't know how much I would trust his answers, or if he knows whether they are real or not .... OK, I see what you're sayin. I know people like that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Nek Posted September 24, 2010 Share #12 Posted September 24, 2010 Do repros have Gas Flaps? And what kind of tag should I see? Yes, the repros are identical to the WW2 camos in almost every way possible. The ones made by ATF and SM Wholesale seem to be the better ones. I believe that the tags are close to the originals as well. If you can find a piece of stitching that is loose, then you could perform a "burn" test and see if the thread is cotton or polyester/cotton blend. This would be the route I'd take, as the presence or absence of the poly/cotton blend will be an automatic indicator. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjones5452 Posted September 24, 2010 Share #13 Posted September 24, 2010 The reproductions ATF made several years ago had gas flaps. There should be a tag in the neck stating the size: 38, 40, 42, etc. Original WWII Army camouflage hbt jackets were not marked Medium, Large, Extra Large, etc. I just looked at my set of ATF Marine cammies that I got last Nov. The jacket has a very small stamped M The pants have a small waist size stamp along the waistband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turmanator Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share #14 Posted September 24, 2010 Thanks for all the answers, guys. I will go back and do a closer inspection with my new-found knowledge. If they seem real you will see a pic show up here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtdorango Posted September 26, 2010 Share #15 Posted September 26, 2010 Yeah, if real that would be very worth the $50!!!!!.....mike :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capa Posted September 26, 2010 Share #16 Posted September 26, 2010 Keep us posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIJive Posted October 3, 2010 Share #17 Posted October 3, 2010 Hello, We didn't hear back about your possible purchase of the WWII Army Camo jacket, but in the meantime, here are some photos of an original set of Army camouflage jacket and trousers. Jacket front. Jacket back. Sleeve detail. Neck detail with hood buttons. I never have seen a hood for a camouflage uniform, has anyone else? Maybe they were just for the standard 1941 jacket hood? Size tag. Trousers front. Trousers rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIJive Posted October 3, 2010 Share #18 Posted October 3, 2010 Trouser button detail. Trouser leg detail. Hope these pictures help you in your determination of whether the $50.00 jacket is real or reproduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpw_42 Posted October 3, 2010 Share #19 Posted October 3, 2010 BEAUTIFUL cammos! I *THINK* that the collar buttons were for the wool gas hood, rather than a "regular" hood. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIJive Posted October 3, 2010 Share #20 Posted October 3, 2010 BEAUTIFUL cammos! I *THINK* that the collar buttons were for the wool gas hood, rather than a "regular" hood. Steve Steve, Thanks, I knew that they were for some kind of hood, I just wasn't sure what type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Flage Guy Posted October 9, 2010 Share #21 Posted October 9, 2010 Outstanding set, GI :w00t: :thumbsup: I'd put up some of mine as well, but our old computer died and took our pictures with it I need to come up with a different way to store photos... :think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted October 9, 2010 Share #22 Posted October 9, 2010 Put them in a shoe box under the bed ............... owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turmanator Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share #23 Posted December 11, 2010 Hello, We didn't hear back about your possible purchase of the WWII Army Camo jacket, but in the meantime, here are some photos of an original set of Army camouflage jacket and trousers. Went back yesterady. Repo, Tag only says "L" (not 42 L or any size number) Oh well, back to the hunt. But at least I know what to look for. Thanks for the info! I was a bit surprised the originals have a white tag in them too, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Willaert Posted December 11, 2010 Share #24 Posted December 11, 2010 If you want to be sure, get a set with readable QM tags... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWIIBuff Posted April 26, 2011 Share #25 Posted April 26, 2011 I recently picked up one of these camouflage Army jackets for my collection, I took a liking to them after seeing a great mannequin display a friend did with his set, now I just need the pants. I thought these Army camouflage pieces would be difficult to find, but it was fairly easy to find the jacket. How common are these jackets and the pants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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