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Just by the stitching, I would say that was made on a US machine.

 

I am not exactly sure who or when it would have been made.

 

However, there was a repro artist operating out of Colorado in the 1990's who liked making pocket hangers covered with a clear plastic. It might very well be one of his. I refer to these as the Rocky Mountain Series.

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of the Vietnam War

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Just by the stitching, I would say that was made on a US machine.

 

I am not exactly sure who or when it would have been made.

 

However, there was a repro artist operating out of Colorado in the 1990's who liked making pocket hangers covered with a clear plastic. It might very well be one of his. I refer to these as the Rocky Mountain Series

 

Good to know, thanks for the info!

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Should anyone pull up this thread, be sure to look at this one on the infamous "Southwest Series" patches.

 

This is one of the most numerous and prolific series of reproduction patches ever to hit the market, and they still surface from old collections today.

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/261760-vietnam-reproductions-southwest-series/page-2

 

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of the Vietnam War

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"One is easily fooled by that which one loves."

 

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You would think if someone is going to make fakes they would at least get the correct designations on the patches - B Troop, not Company

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I have added a thread on fake and reproduction 101st patches from various sources. Please see:

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/279943-angry-birds-a-selection-of-questionable-vietnam-era-101st-patches/

Gil Burket
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Specializing in Fakes and Reproductions
of the Vietnam War

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"One is easily fooled by that which one loves."

 

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I also have a questionable patch with Vietnamese writing on the back. What I want to know is if there are actually authentic patches with this backing.

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Authentic patches used everything you could think of including pages from books, newsprint from Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese sources, cloth of every kind, even from plaid pajamas.

 

The patch fakers will use Vietnamese newspaper material to suggest authenticity. But sometimes their carelessness betrays them, with pages showing cell phones and fax machines.

 

What I do not like about the photo you have shared is that even though the patch shows no signs of ever having been sewn or worn, the backing material is stained. This could either be from tea stains, or placing the patch in an oven or similar heat source. Such staining is not logical for an unused patch unless it was poorly stored.

 

When you get a chance, please post the front side of the patch as well.

Gil Burket
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Specializing in Fakes and Reproductions
of the Vietnam War

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"One is easily fooled by that which one loves."

 

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Thank you for your reply. I was plenty suspicious when I received the patch. Plus there is no info as to its provenance. Here is the front of the patch. post-5641-0-30819100-1532799066.jpeg

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Again, we see what looks to be more artificial staining on the front. If they had just left that alone, it would have been a lot more convincing. I believe the slogan on it is based on an old reenlistment campaign which the troops found to be quite ironic when they were slogging through muck. Thank you for sharing.

Gil Burket
Omaha, NE
Specializing in Fakes and Reproductions
of the Vietnam War

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"One is easily fooled by that which one loves."

 

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Interesting thread with helpful responses...I pulled a few random "Vietnam made" patches from an aviation collection I bought a while back. They were purchased by the previous owner at different times and from various sources, but they all share the common features of many copies: they are dingy. Apparently most fakers think folks walk around in dingy uniforms wearing dingy patches ! I realize they attempted to "age" the insignia, but when was the last time anyone saw a soldier wearing a dirty patch, especially one that had never been sewn on!

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Reverse side.

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Ed Hicks

WARPATH Military Collectibles

819 Hope Mills Road

Fayetteville, North Carolina

(910) 425-7000

 

Always buying U.S. Airborne & Vietnam Special Forces artifacts and groupings, Painted and Rare U.S. Helmets; U.S. Valor Medal Groupings, Fine Swords...

Buying or trading for my collection: 1950s-1970s Vietnam era Rolex & Tudor Watches...

Contact me before you sell... [email protected]<script data-cfhash='f9e31' type="text/javascript">/* */</script>

 

My Web Sites: http://www.battlefieldmuseum.org

 

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1 hour ago, matmil said:

I presume a Pugh patch ?any help appreciated thanks

 

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It could very well be.   Harry sourced his from Taiwan in the 1980's and 1990's if I recall correctly.

Gil Burket
Omaha, NE
Specializing in Fakes and Reproductions
of the Vietnam War

burkcats@hotmail.com

 

"One is easily fooled by that which one loves."

 

Moliere: Tartuffe

 

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Here is another RT Florida, I think also a repro, is this a Pugh patch as well?

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The Florida looks like the series that is coming out of VN now where they have made one from every state that was part of CCN

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Maybe a little different than that,   the the weave of the embroidery is not as tightly stitched as this, and different base material.

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And we have a new player on the scene, or at least one I have not seen before.  It's equally possible this may have been hidden away in a collection for years.  

 

This is currently up for auction on eBay.  I suspect this was US made.  It may of simply been fro a re-enactor.  Time will tell if we see more made this way.

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Gil Burket
Omaha, NE
Specializing in Fakes and Reproductions
of the Vietnam War

burkcats@hotmail.com

 

"One is easily fooled by that which one loves."

 

Moliere: Tartuffe

 

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Gil,

 

Could you help me out with a few patches?  Do any of these look legit to you?  I have my doubts on most after going through the past threads you have posted, but just wanted to get your thoughts.  I am out of my comfort zone with Vietnam patches.

 

Thanks

Frank

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All of those look bad

Looking for a Vietnamese made 267th Cable Construction "Snakemen" patch and DI & Theatre Made Hand Guided Patches from ODS to Present Day as well as embroidered boonies/ uniforms

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I think the Hospital patch that is marked 44th med bgd has a chance at being real

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3 hours ago, vintageproductions said:

I think the Hospital patch that is marked 44th med bgd has a chance at being real

 

I was thinking  the same thing.

Gil Burket
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of the Vietnam War

burkcats@hotmail.com

 

"One is easily fooled by that which one loves."

 

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1 hour ago, gwb123 said:

 

I was thinking  the same thing.

I think it is an unfinished or a variant 12th Evacuation Hospital.

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