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Been looking for one of these for ages, and finally got one for cheap at the flea market today.

 

1944 dated crate for garand 8 round clips in bandoleers. Will go good with my next display. :)

 

 

 

 

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I'm willing to bet that should be read as "1344", as in "1,344 cartridges", that would make 7 spam cans, 28 bandoleers, and 1344 rounds in the crate.

 

Very nice crate, though, I'm more than a little envious :thumbsup:

Sorry, no refunds on opinions...............have a nice day

 

This computin' machine has got alotta buttons on it...........................where's the "ANY" key?

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I'm willing to bet that should be read as "1344", as in "1,344 cartridges", that would make 7 spam cans, 28 bandoleers, and 1344 rounds in the crate.

 

Very nice crate, though, I'm more than a little envious :thumbsup:

 

 

:lol: That would make more sense wouldn't it...

 

 

 

Thanks for the comments!!

 

 

edit: Any way to know the date by the other markings?

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Heres a couple of mine

 

 

First one is AP in cartons

 

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In Memoriam:
Lieutenant J.Kostelec 1-3 First Special Service Force MIA/PD 4 March 1944 Italy
I HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND IT IS DAYLIGHT
Forget about the tips..We'll get hell to pay (AC/DC)
"If you cant get out and run with the big dogs then sit on the porch and bark at the cars going by.."

Have you Hugged a Clown Today?

You Cant Get A Sun Tan On The Moon..





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M2 in enblocs...

 

Note US MARINE CORP in Yellow on lid.

 

Picked both these up in KC at the military show a year ago for $20.THey had set there all weekend and the guy didnt want to haul them home.He was from St.Louis.When I pointed out the USMC marking I had more offers than I could count.

 

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In Memoriam:
Lieutenant J.Kostelec 1-3 First Special Service Force MIA/PD 4 March 1944 Italy
I HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND IT IS DAYLIGHT
Forget about the tips..We'll get hell to pay (AC/DC)
"If you cant get out and run with the big dogs then sit on the porch and bark at the cars going by.."

Have you Hugged a Clown Today?

You Cant Get A Sun Tan On The Moon..





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Back and end of box

 

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In Memoriam:
Lieutenant J.Kostelec 1-3 First Special Service Force MIA/PD 4 March 1944 Italy
I HAVE SEEN THE ENEMY AND IT IS DAYLIGHT
Forget about the tips..We'll get hell to pay (AC/DC)
"If you cant get out and run with the big dogs then sit on the porch and bark at the cars going by.."

Have you Hugged a Clown Today?

You Cant Get A Sun Tan On The Moon..





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What the letters and numbers “T1EHA” mean:

 

The first two figures indicate the Standard Nomenclature List this ammo comes from.

In this case it is ‘T1‘; “Ammunition, Rifle, Carbine, and Automatic Gun".

The Standard Nomenclature List (SNL) is a booklet/catalog from which ’things’ were ordered.

Things,, could be any thing from bolts &nuts, tools, weapons, and so on,,, each had their own SNL.

A ‘2½ ton truck could have twenty (or more) SNLs to cover every thing on and in it.

 

The third letter indicates the weapon and caliber . In this case it is ’E’, “Cal..30 Rifles ‘03 & M1, and Machine Guns”.

 

The forth letter indicates the “Round and Model”. In this case it is ‘H’, “CARTRIDGE, ball, cal..30, M2, Grade R”

 

The fifth letter indicates the “Packing”. In this case ‘A’, “8/clip, drg D28288, 6 clips/BAND, M1. Drg D43490, 28 BAND (1344)/mtl-lnd bx M1917, drgs 76-6-44 and C82230” and it weighted 108lb.

 

With drg D43490 it has a note: “one 8-rd clip in carton, drg B139394, are in each of the six pockets of BANDOLEER, M1. See drg D43491.”

 

Mtl-lnd is metal lined, the box is a Model 1917, the drg 76-6-44 is one of WWI or just after, the drawings identifications that start with a letter ( the size of the sheet) and then a number, began to be used in the late 30s, 38 or 39.

 

If that forth letter had been a F it would have been “CARTRIDGE, ball, cal..30, M1”. M1 ball was listed as available, thru out the War.

 

This stuff changed thru the War, you had to keep your manuals up to date. For instance that forth letter H, in 1942 would have indicated: “5/cp, 12 cp/bl, 20 bl/bx (1200 rds/bx)”

 

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Justin

Forgot to point out one slight thing, that letter and numbers group is the Ammunition Identification Code or A.I.C. Changed a bit in its make up in 51, and was completely don away with in 57 or 58.

 

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Very nice! It reminded me of reading about them in Eugene Sledge's "With the Old Breed..." He said that they HATED handling those crates because of the marginal end grooves that they had to hang on to them. As heavy as they were, it was extremely hard to do so. He mentions that the grunts bet that whoever came up with that design never had to load them, or unload them off a vehicle, or carry them in the rain. On the other hand, he praised the ordnance that came in crates equipped with rope handles. Stuff you don't think about unless you've been there.

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